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Old 11-02-2010, 12:16 PM   #46
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I bet there won't be entire volumes dedicated to the final drive crapping out.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:27 PM   #47
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #48
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Please describe too heavy?
Yamaha S10 is the class champ of too heavy. Hopefully this bike will not be as overweight.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:43 PM   #49
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Yamaha S10 is the class champ of too heavy. Hopefully this bike will not be as overweight.
75 Lbs is in the stock S10 Exhaust can... Take that sucker off and its .5Lbs lighter than the GS.... Just for your info !
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:43 PM   #50
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... I don't expect to be buying it, since it will probably be sized for midgets (32" seat height), unlike my Adventure.

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I think it will be like most bikes these days, designed with a 'short people have no reason to ride' philosophy. I'd be surprised if the seat height was much less than 32". Just look at the NT700. It has a very high seat for no reason at all except for laziness on the part of the designer.

Honda knows how to make a short person friendly standard bike, they did it with the ST1300. Sadly that bike seems to be an aberration.

Lots of short people, especially women and shorty girly-men wind up buying cruisers just because they can sit on one in the showroom without feeling like they are balancing on a high wire.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:54 PM   #51
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I hear it comes with a standard fog horn.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:06 PM   #52
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I wonder if there will be an automatic version.

Looks exactly like Zero Haliburton did the luggage....you toocan look like a late 80's drug dealer. :)

Looks like tubeless spoke wheels

Probably just right for this segment....the appearance of off-road capability.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:14 PM   #53
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Yamaha S10 is the class champ of too heavy. Hopefully this bike will not be as overweight.
No the BMW GSA is the class champ, if you actually measure the things and not believe the manufacturers BS.

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Old 11-02-2010, 02:26 PM   #54
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another overweight piece of shit roadbike like the GS & ST, honda lost its balls years ago
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:38 PM   #55
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another overweight piece of shit roadbike like the GS & ST, honda lost its balls years ago
Sad but true.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:39 PM   #56
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I had a '94 VFR an loved it. My thought is that perhaps they have a LOT of the V-4 motors available and have to get their money out of the engineering (are new VFR's selling that well? I have yet to see one on the road and the same two have been at the dealer here for months). It's just not the motor I'd expect for this type of bike. I'm sure Honda has a plan to get some torque down low in the V-4 for a bike intended to be ridden on gravel (??) some of the time. Otherwise, it should be awesome on the road. A little too much plastic for me, but looks nice overall!

Get ready, though, someone is bound to try to do a comparo with their XR

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Old 11-02-2010, 02:44 PM   #57
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another overweight piece of shit roadbike like the GS & ST, honda lost its balls years ago
...so say many of you, with a combined total of how many minutes in the saddle?

The same things were said of my ST1300, and I quite liked it for any number of reasons.

Personally, I look forward to hearing more about the bike. It might be perfect for me - or, it might not. I don't base my opinions solely on pics; the basic specs seems favorable to me.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:52 PM   #58
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Honda does not need an adv bike in 2011/12, they need one NOW!

And, I don't like it at all. I've never liked the look of gs(a)'s, but at least they 'look' plain and simple, honda always put bikes on the market that are toooo much.

Can't see the use of a 1200cc ultra modern V4 engine in an adv bike...
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:59 PM   #59
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Can't see the use of a 1200cc ultra modern V4 engine in an adv bike...
In Australia, South Africa, the Americas and NZ an ADV bike is a go anywhere, (well as far as you can) bike.

In Europe an Adventure Bike is a bike that can do most any tarmac or cobble stones on back roads between B&B and pubs that are more than 20 minutes away from your residence and has a beak.
Any bloody bike would do but at the moment it has to have a beak and look like you could go to Africa.

So the Honda is probably right up their ally. (Paved of course)

Many reviewers bon't even bother trying them on the dirt and use sports or touring bike criteria to rate them.

This is why the DL650 was given so much cred back in 2005. It works well on twisty mountain roads and was comfortable enough for two up between B&B's. Dirt performance wasn't even considered.

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Old 11-02-2010, 03:00 PM   #60
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