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Old 11-13-2011, 11:43 AM   #811
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Doubtful, the rim and tire has to clear the hub.
I used to have a 1150GS, the distance was similar and the wheel was off without any further exhaust ado. On that bike the flange of the hub/bevel box interface was just a few mm deep. So the drill is you unscrew the bolts, push the wheel just a little and then remove.
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Old 11-13-2011, 12:47 PM   #812
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Not a hint about off road in the video. It's just as much adventure bike as HD Road glide
You can make any ride an adventure, it has nothing to do with the bike.... sorry.

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Old 11-13-2011, 02:29 PM   #813
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If that's the case, then I'm in!
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:52 PM   #814
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You can make any ride an adventure, it has nothing to do with the bike.... sorry.

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Totaly agree with you Paul, I was talking about bike characteristics that fit the particular bike class of type though. Adventure bike class. CrossTourer is a touring bikeand in my eyes and should be in "Road Warriors". I truly believe Adventure class bike should be on road-off road machine , dual sport bike on steroids kinda... Have a motor big enough for effortless highway cruising and off road suspension that can carry that monstrosity through the ruffest terrain with confidence. Moroccan deserts, Autobahn, Siberia, Route 66, Baja Mexico ,TAT ... you get the flow .Like a Swiss knife of the motorcycles .
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #815
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unbolt the hanger, loosen the clamp and swing the muffler out of the way. Bfd.
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:16 PM   #816
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Totaly agree with you Paul, I was talking about bike characteristics that fit the particular bike class of type though. Adventure bike class. CrossTourer is a touring bikeand in my eyes and should be in "Road Warriors". I truly believe Adventure class bike should be on road-off road machine , dual sport bike on steroids kinda... Have a motor big enough for effortless highway cruising and off road suspension that can carry that monstrosity through the ruffest terrain with confidence. Moroccan deserts, Autobahn, Siberia, Route 66, Baja Mexico ,TAT ... you get the flow .Like a Swiss knife of the motorcycles .
You must suffer greatly, with the Beasts thread in general.

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Old 11-13-2011, 04:21 PM   #817
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You must suffer greatly, with the Beasts thread in general.

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Not exactly suffering , it just make me rise my eyebrows , especially after new bike introductions at EICMA : CrossTourer, Versys 1000 introduced as ...adventure bikes . Triumph 1200 Explorer looks business though.
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Old 11-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #818
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At least we're getting more and more variety!

I would love SO much to see a Japanese KTM, though. Maybe going directly after the GS is a start.

Maybe if the S10 sells well, Yamaha will bring the mini Tenere stateside.

What I don't understand is the adoption of shaft drive for lessened maintenance. Personally, I don't mind chewing through a chain every now and again; I've gotten as much as 40K out of a set. It's the valve checks that kill me. I've already made a compromise on performance by buying an adventure bike; if I wanted HP, I'd have bought a Repsol CBR. Why not make life easy by giving me maintenance-free valves? What do I lose, 10% power output? I can live with that. What percentage does a shaft suck over a chain? 10%?

Maybe shaft drive is going to become mandated for environmental reasons, though. What with chains flapping grease all over the place, and all.

Anyway, I think the bike looks pretty cool. Not pretty, but delightfully quirky. I can't wait to see it in action head to head with the water-boxer and the Trumpet.
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Old 11-13-2011, 06:10 PM   #819
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I wonder if this bike will be at the 2012 International Motorcycle Show.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:16 PM   #820
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At least we're getting more and more variety!

I would love SO much to see a Japanese KTM, though. Maybe going directly after the GS is a start.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:53 PM   #821
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Maybe shaft drive is going to become mandated for environmental reasons, though. What with chains flapping grease all over the place, and all.


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Old 11-13-2011, 09:10 PM   #822
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Shafted!

Once you've been shafted there is no going back to a chain.
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:14 AM   #823
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Had a squint at the Milan feature in MCN today. The overall feeling from the design team is that they wanted a touring platform for the V4 motor that was more sporty and fun than previous touring applications. I think the prevalence of so many ADV type bike led to the overall styling and choice of wheels.
Guesswork on price has it between the new Tiger and the S10.

I should add that the S10 is about 13000 over here - just to give you a comparison.

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Old 11-16-2011, 10:13 AM   #824
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Had a squint at the Milan feature in MCN today. The overall feeling from the design team is that they wanted a touring platform for the V4 motor that was more sporty and fun than previous touring applications. I think the prevalence of so many ADV type bike led to the overall styling and choice of wheels.
Guesswork on price has it between the new Tiger and the S10.

I should add that the S10 is about 13000 over here - just to give you a comparison.
I am considering it for a tour bike in West USA.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:59 AM   #825
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I must be missing something here. Is this a bike without a clutch? Am I so out of the loop that Honda has gone to a clutchless system without me noticing it?

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OK, I do see the gear position indicator "N" above the speedo readout. Nice instrument layout IMHO. Equal to that on my '07 GSAdv.

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