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Old 12-10-2011, 03:50 PM   #946
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I had a chat with my friend at Honda Canada. He says the 1200 is a sure thing next year, probably as an early 13 model in Canada anyway, he wasn't as sure about the 800 though. Most likely seeing as the Varedero is ceasing production soon, they will need to replace it.
Looks great, doubt it will be in my budget next year though.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:52 PM   #947
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Anything definitive re: availability in the US?
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:52 AM   #948
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Anything definitive re: availability in the US?
I spoke to Honda USA rep at the IMS in Long Beach yesterday He wouldn't (or couldn't?) say when but did say not this model year
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:29 PM   #949
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How'm I supposed to buy a used one, if they won't sell them new?
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:18 PM   #950
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I spoke to Honda USA rep at the IMS in Long Beach yesterday He wouldn't (or couldn't?) say when but did say not this model year
Jeez - I've owned Honda's and found them bulletproof, but they sure aren't making this easy. The Triumph may get my $$ by default...
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:07 AM   #951
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I had a chat with my friend at Honda Canada. He says the 1200 is a sure thing next year, probably as an early 13 model in Canada anyway, he wasn't as sure about the 800 though. Most likely seeing as the Varedero is ceasing production soon, they will need to replace it.
Looks great, doubt it will be in my budget next year though.
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Jeez - I've owned Honda's and found them bulletproof, but they sure aren't making this easy. The Triumph may get my $$ by default...
They're bringing it to Canada but I'd never buy another bike that only gets imported to Canada and not the US. Made that mistake with my CBF. Parts are scarce and expensive and no aftermarket support because they only sell maybe a dozen bikes to us Canadians.
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:13 AM   #952
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They're bringing it to Canada but I'd never buy another bike that only gets imported to Canada and not the US. Made that mistake with my CBF. Parts are scarce and expensive and no aftermarket support because they only sell maybe a dozen bikes to us Canadians.
I would think most mechanical parts would still be readily available since it's a redressed VFR. Things like brake pads, engine sensors, bearings, seals, etc. shouldn't be a problem. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. Body parts... that's another story.

What did you have trouble with for the CBF?
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:30 AM   #953
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I would think most mechanical parts would still be readily available since it's a redressed VFR. Things like brake pads, engine sensors, bearings, seals, etc. shouldn't be a problem. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. Body parts... that's another story.

What did you have trouble with for the CBF?
probably had to pay an arm and a leg for supply/wear items from honda and he could not find any aftermarket.

the same story was repeated w/ the 1st year of the versys in the canada (but not in the us) no aftermarket what so ever to be found and then after it came to the us, plenty of aftermarket to be had.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:22 AM   #954
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I would think most mechanical parts would still be readily available since it's a redressed VFR. Things like brake pads, engine sensors, bearings, seals, etc. shouldn't be a problem. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, though. Body parts... that's another story.

What did you have trouble with for the CBF?
Within one month my fuel pump went, $750 and my stator, $550. It was near the end of riding season so I ordered the fuel pump from my local dealer and ate the cost, but the stator failed near the end of the season so I ordered from a UK dealer and had it shipped to my door for $330??? No idea why Honda Canada think a stator is worth over $200 more than it is anywhere else in the world.

As usual stators are a known weak spot on the CBFs, just like on the CBRs, VFRs, Goldwings etc. Honda UK are quietly replacing failed stators, even out of warranty. Honda USA extended the warranty on CBR stators for the 2005 models I believe, and even though the CBF motor is a detuned 2005 CBR motor Honda Canada simply denied any warranty claim or good will gesture when my stator failed even though I showed them over 40 documented failures from the CBF forum.

At least if a bike is imported to the US we have the option of shopping for parts over the border with greater availability, pricing etc.

BTW my dealer almost fell off his stool when he looked up the price on the fuel pump. Said it was the most expensive pump he had ever ordered. I think its because the CBF has a gas gauge and the pump comes complete with the float and electronics for the gauge. Which doesn't work worth a damn anyway, I always just use the trip meter. Lesson learned and Honda have lost a customer, for good.

PS 24,000kms on the bike when the parts blew up. My dealer was expecting to see a buildup of crud on the fuel filter from ethanol. He's seen quite a few plugged filters and just generally grungy tanks, but my tank and fuel pump filter were spotless. I always fill up at either Shell or Chevron stations with know good gas and use Stabil whenever the bike sits for a month or more over the winter.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:59 AM   #955
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Within one month my fuel pump went, $750 and my stator, $550. It was near the end of riding season so I ordered the fuel pump from my local dealer and ate the cost, but the stator failed near the end of the season so I ordered from a UK dealer and had it shipped to my door for $330??? No idea why Honda Canada think a stator is worth over $200 more than it is anywhere else in the world.

As usual stators are a known weak spot on the CBFs, just like on the CBRs, VFRs, Goldwings etc. Honda UK are quietly replacing failed stators, even out of warranty. Honda USA extended the warranty on CBR stators for the 2005 models I believe, and even though the CBF motor is a detuned 2005 CBR motor Honda Canada simply denied any warranty claim or good will gesture when my stator failed even though I showed them over 40 documented failures from the CBF forum.

At least if a bike is imported to the US we have the option of shopping for parts over the border with greater availability, pricing etc.

BTW my dealer almost fell off his stool when he looked up the price on the fuel pump. Said it was the most expensive pump he had ever ordered. I think its because the CBF has a gas gauge and the pump comes complete with the float and electronics for the gauge. Which doesn't work worth a damn anyway, I always just use the trip meter. Lesson learned and Honda have lost a customer, for good.

PS 24,000kms on the bike when the parts blew up. My dealer was expecting to see a buildup of crud on the fuel filter from ethanol. He's seen quite a few plugged filters and just generally grungy tanks, but my tank and fuel pump filter were spotless. I always fill up at either Shell or Chevron stations with know good gas and use Stabil whenever the bike sits for a month or more over the winter.
Ah, I see. Crazy Canadian pricing. I had the same reaction when I priced a fuel pump for my Strom: $600+. In-tank pumps are LAME.
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Old 12-13-2011, 11:38 AM   #956
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Ah, I see. Crazy Canadian pricing. I had the same reaction when I priced a fuel pump for my Strom: $600+. In-tank pumps are LAME.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:56 AM   #957
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Fuelpumps vv Honda's

@ Bross (with the danger of going slightly offtopic here): Fuelpumps have been an issue on many Honda's. There are plenty of good, reliable and affordable alternatives on the marked, f.e. the Facet fuel pump (used on many Africa Twins and MK1 Varadero's) and the QH (Quintin Hazel) fuel pump, originally designed for a Rover motorcar: 30€... per piece.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:14 AM   #958
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I had a look at a catalog and only saw low psi carb pumps.

Have you got some parts info?
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:32 AM   #959
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Jeez - I've owned Honda's and found them bulletproof, but they sure aren't making this easy. The Triumph may get my $$ by default...
Its a shame, I feel the same way and very close to doing so. I am in a holding pattern and dieing to join the adventure world. Im a huge Honda fan and always have been. I have a VFR 1200 being offered to me at 10,900 and so tempted to grab it. (2010) such an expensive platform for a bike, the cross tour will be 15 and up all day long I would think.
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:43 AM   #960
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Its a shame, I feel the same way and very close to doing so. I am in a holding pattern and dieing to join the adventure world. Im a huge Honda fan and always have been. I have a VFR 1200 being offered to me at 10,900 and so tempted to grab it. (2010) such an expensive platform for a bike, the cross tour will be 15 and up all day long I would think.
The Honda VFR 1200 is a wonderful, powerful bike. However, have you ridden it???
The suspension is very firm, good for well-maintained roads, but really rough for the midwest heavers.
BTW, surprisingly the suspension is not adjustable.
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