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Old 03-23-2012, 07:41 PM   #5356
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I don't how much you could compensate with RPM, you can only have so much tip speed. Lift capactiy would be minimal with so little wing area. The controls would have to be mushy to say the least. Not such a bad thing for newbies just learning.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:40 PM   #5357
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Oops, sorry about that Uncle Sam, but I think it will buff out.


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Old 03-24-2012, 07:06 PM   #5358
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Oops, sorry about that Uncle Sam, but I think it will buff out.
Hmm, aren't there rules about density altitude and stuff???

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Old 03-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #5359
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:41 PM   #5360
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Anytime you are flying an aircraft out of sight of your immediate supervisor there are no rules, only your common sense, and experience are there to save you. Young men are often short on both counts.

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Hmm, aren't there rules about density altitude and stuff???

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Old 03-24-2012, 08:32 PM   #5361
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Hmm, aren't there rules about density altitude and stuff???
Apparently, those were just guidelines

I read somewhere that charges are being brought against the pilot.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:39 PM   #5362
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Apparently, those were just guidelines

I read somewhere that charges are being brought against the pilot.
Watch carefully, frame by frame :38-39 seconds, they hit a guy as it crashed into the ground.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:10 PM   #5363
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Watch carefully, frame by frame :38-39 seconds, they hit a guy as it crashed into the ground.
Yes. I saw that.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:21 AM   #5364
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I wasn't sure if it hit that guy or not, but I thought if it didn't it was close as one could get. I read nobody was killed. The video has gone viral (what ever the hell that means). To quote Cousin Eddy, "If that thing had nine lives she just spent em all right there, whew"!
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:58 PM   #5365
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Anytime you are flying an aircraft out of sight of your immediate supervisor there are no rules, only your common sense, and experience are there to save you. Young men are often short on both counts.

Yep, that's why I'm 64 and still flying (although mostly for fun these days) and I'll bet their flying career is pretty much done.

I only did some orientation stuff in the Apache, but do have more than a couple of hours in Cobras and Hueys (B, C, and M model guns and D and H model slicks, plus some time in A models in training) and there are just some things you don't do if you want to be around to fly for a bunch of years. Yeah, return to target is a nice move, and has been part of gunship doctrine for as long as I can remember (especially for Cobras - not so much for Hueys), but unless you are showing off, you don't get that low before initiating your pull out. As can be seen from the video, it's too easy to misjudge things.

I wonder at what point the pilot knew he was fucked?

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Old 03-25-2012, 05:01 PM   #5366
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I wonder at what point the pilot knew he was fucked?

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Think he's got a bruise in his armpit?
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:20 PM   #5367
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Oh I would say when he went to pull out he quickly realized this is going to hurt. Had a few of those moments on motorcycles. I hate that feeling.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:20 PM   #5368
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I wonder at what point the pilot knew he was fucked?

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Me thinks in the descent when the low rotor audio started going off.






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Old 03-25-2012, 05:56 PM   #5369
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:47 PM   #5370
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I just arrived on Fort Worth for a week. The boss bought a new 407GX. Should be sweet. Just seeing green grass for the first time since last October has been a treat.


Anyone have any recommendations on what to do and see while in town?
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