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Old 01-04-2012, 11:31 AM   #1576
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Plenty of guys riding Bergs with GL Coyotes on back and tank bags. I would think if you can put a 70 degree subframe tank and the weight associated with the extra fuel, you should be able to run a Great Basin.
Are you suggesting that the 70 Degree subframe is better able to handle the weight of a Great Basin than the stock part?

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Old 01-04-2012, 11:58 AM   #1577
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contact trailtech ref stator rewind.

are you suggesting that the 70 degree subframe is better able to handle the weight of a great basin than the stock part?

i was suggesting that the extra weight of the fuel in a 70 degree might be compared to the extra weight of gear in a gb compared to a coyote.

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Old 01-04-2012, 02:07 PM   #1578
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Now its time to find a 2011 FE390.....
I traded up from my 08 WRR to a FE570S. I think the 390 would have been plenty of HP for me. But too much HP aside ... I really love this berg.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:18 PM   #1579
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I traded up from my 08 WRR to a FE570S. I think the 390 would have been plenty of HP for me. But too much HP aside ... I really love this berg.
You really think it has too much power?
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:26 PM   #1580
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If I had to pick one word descriptor of the FE390 it would be: effortless

My bike came off the showroom floor a little too lean for my taste. Weird because it was still silky smooth.....lean usually produces a snatchy take-off. But, it had a tendency to wheez or flame-out when charging into a corner and chopping off the throttle, then hammering back on. However, the Cyborg set me up with a big-time fix. A dealer remapped the ECU with the FX450 competition fuel map and Ho-Chi-Momma is it ever running PERFECT now. That there is the best improvement to the bike you could probably ever make.....and a necessary one at that.

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HF, glad you like the re-map. It's awesome. It's the map my dealer (Tasky's in Everett, WA) put into mine right away when I bought it new, and it rips! I've never experienced the too-lean EPA map. That lean EPA map is also probably why yours ran better with the "Briggs & Stratton" perforated restrictor plate installed. It was too lean to run with it out. With the new map it's just the opposite, the restrictor plate chokes it.

BTW, in case people don't know, the toolkit comes with a special tool to remove that pesky restrictor plate (which doesn't look like a spark arrestor to me).



My dealer says that restrictor plate mysteriously "falls out" of all of his customers bikes
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:02 PM   #1581
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Here's how I got around not having a metal subframe...



I can carry gear and extra fuel without having to add any racks or large gas tanks to the bike. That way when I get to where I'm going I can ditch the trailer and play on my lightweight berg! Check out the trailer at www.moto-mule.com

Like mentioned above, the berg is a super off road bike. I'm running some Kenda DOT knobbies similar to the 606's. Definately rides like a dirtbike on the road. Mine is also the FX model, with a close ration gearbox. With dirt gearing 13/52 it's not comfortable over 55mph. I'm thinking of adding a Rekluse clutch and higher gearing to see if I can make it more comfortable at speed and still perform offroad the way I like. If I had the FE with the taller 6th gear it would probably be about perfect...
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #1582
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Found a 2011 FE390 leftover for $6800 a few hundred miles away.....

Spoke with the dealership and they can have the bike prepped to my liking (re-mapped, with taillights and blinkers)...

I am about to move some funds over to make the deal.....

I think I can get $5K between my WR250R and XR600R when I sell them in May... so total out of pocket around $2K

SOMEONE TALK ME OUT OF THIS
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:16 PM   #1583
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Other than the lower wattage output, it seems you enjoy the 'Berg more than the WRR. That's good news!
In the woods for sure. Berg all the way!

The WRR is simply one of the best true adventure touring machines I've owned, all things considered. I could ride it to Alaska and back....no problem. Bigdog & Dingweed did it just last summer. But, I wouldn't try to do that on my Husaberg. So, my WRR ain't going nowhere soon.

But, that's also the dilemma from another perspective.....my WRR ain't going nowhere soon.

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Old 01-04-2012, 04:25 PM   #1584
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Are you suggesting that the 70 Degree subframe is better able to handle the weight of a Great Basin than the stock part?
I've taken my stock plastic subframe off the bike and thoroughly inspected it. Squeezed it, dropped it, stood on it. This is one stout piece of thick plastic. The solid body perimeter appears to be quite strong. I'd have no worries stuffing a GB full. There doesn't appear to be a particular weak point in the subframe design. I think it will work fine, if you don't get ridiculous with your load.

The stock part may be stronger (structurally) than the fuel cell version, but that's purely a guess using my imagination.

But what do I know...

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p.s. I'll be running a GL Coyote bag soon enough. That holds plenty for me. In fact, if you can't get it in a Coyote, you probably don't need to take it with you. Just sayin
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:35 PM   #1585
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Would be easy to CNC a billet alum replacement I would guess, or even a steel piece for strength.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:56 PM   #1586
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You really think it has too much power?
For a dual sport bike it is great. For the tight, rooty, rocky, muddy NE trails I ride sometimes ... for me a 390 would be plenty. I am looking forward to riding the new KTM 350 in those conditions because it will be lighter than my berg.

You rode with me once Nate ... I am old and slow. I know that you can handle the 570 like it's a featherweight.
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Old 01-04-2012, 05:04 PM   #1587
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For a dual sport bike it is great. For the tight, rooty, rocky, muddy NE trails I ride sometimes ... for me a 390 would be plenty. I am looking forward to riding the new KTM 350 in those conditions because it will be lighter than my berg.

You rode with me once Nate ... I am old and slow. I know that you can handle the 570 like it's a featherweight.
I did try an 11 390 and I did notice MUCH less engine braking.

That bike was much easier to ride fast than the 570, some of that I atribute to improved suspension settings but some to the smoothness of the engine as well.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:22 PM   #1588
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HF...

I own an '11FE570S and agree completely with your comments above.

I will be interested in hearing how you keep the Giant Loop straps away and/or insulated from the exhaust pipe.

Thanks for all your input...I used to own a WRR also and your input was greatly appreciated ! And valuable !

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Old 01-04-2012, 06:50 PM   #1589
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If you run Seafoam 1 oz per gallon in you fuel your injectors will stay clean.
Seafoam is basically isopropanol and penetrating oil. Prevents ethanol and water from forming an acid that eats the aluminum fuel pumps and clogs the injectors with aluminum oxide particles that are too small to be filtered.
BMW F800GS has the same small orifices on their injector heads.
I replaced the stock injectors with less than 1000 miles on my BMW and since have added 24,000 miles with Seafoam at every fill up. No Issues. Berg is also doing great on the Seafoam diet with over 2,000. miles
I used Seafoam with great result on my carbed Kawi Brute Force 750 that got all clogged up after sitting for a few years. But on my street bikes I use Strarbrite Startron with every fill up....so far so good.

Do you know what the advantage is in using Seafoam as opposed to Startron?

BTW, your Indy kit works great on my F800GS...thank you.
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HF...

I own an '11FE570S and agree completely with your comments above.

I will be interested in hearing how you keep the Giant Loop straps away and/or insulated from the exhaust pipe.

Thanks for all your input...I used to own a WRR also and your input was greatly appreciated ! And valuable !

Dave
Glad to help. Regarding the GL, I'm running the Mojave on my 390....which you can see in my photos (above). I'm assuming it has a very similar strapping system to the other models they make, but not certain. Anyway, its no problem near my exhaust; doesn't touch it. There is room between the frame and pipe...enough to wrap the strap and cinch it to the buckle.

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