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Old 08-15-2013, 06:31 PM   #4141
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Gutless and 570 Berg do not go together - even a bone stock 570. Either something is not right w/ the bike or you are used to riding a moto gp bike.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:47 PM   #4142
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Gutless and 570 Berg do not go together - even a bone stock 570. Either something is not right w/ the bike or you are used to riding a moto gp bike.
Used to riding a bone stock crf450r? Haven't had to touch the motor in the honda because it has always had enough and could put a smile on my face. I dunno, the Berg just doesn't do that for me. Just keep thinking that there is something up with because it sat so long on the dealers floor before it sold. All of you talking about it being a wheelie monster make me jealous!
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:58 PM   #4143
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Used to riding a bone stock crf450r? Haven't had to touch the motor in the honda because it has always had enough and could put a smile on my face. I dunno, the Berg just doesn't do that for me. Just keep thinking that there is something up with because it sat so long on the dealers floor before it sold. All of you talking about it being a wheelie monster make me jealous!
Have you checked your map switch? Setting 1 is soft, 2 is madness, 3 is standard. If it's on setting 1, that may explain the lack of power. I bought my 570 used so I'm not sure if the switch comes with the bike as standard. Mine was tucked behind the headlight mask.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:47 AM   #4144
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Just keep thinking that there is something up with because it sat so long on the dealers floor before it sold. All of you talking about it being a wheelie monster make me jealous!
something seriously wrong there. the berg should still effortlessly rear up and paw the air like a wild european stallion in top gear at 60mph with a weeks worth of camping gear and food strapped to its lean mean clean body.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:42 AM   #4145
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Picking up a 2010 fe570 within a few weeks from VA, and I'm only on page 10 of this thread. I should start reading at a quicker pace
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:17 AM   #4146
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something seriously wrong there. the berg should still effortlessly rear up and paw the air like a wild european stallion in top gear at 60mph with a weeks worth of camping gear and food strapped to its lean mean clean body.
Agreed....when I first got mine it would wheelie in 5th gear on a slight rise in the road . that was with the 13 / 52 gearing.. I just got back from a trip to Colorado , the bike ran nice & clean & got 40 mpg . I did notice a lack of power @ 13000 feet compared to sea level. I couldnt get it to wheelie in 4th gear. Its nice to have the self calibrating ECU Now that Im back home @ sea level it pulls as hard as it ever did. So I would say there is definately a problem somewhere. Lack of power is not normal for this bike, Just my .02c worth.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:19 AM   #4147
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Used to riding a bone stock crf450r? Haven't had to touch the motor in the honda because it has always had enough and could put a smile on my face. I dunno, the Berg just doesn't do that for me. Just keep thinking that there is something up with because it sat so long on the dealers floor before it sold. All of you talking about it being a wheelie monster make me jealous!
Maybe this has been covered already, but I would check your fuel pump in-take filter. My bike sat on the dealers floor for several months with just a small amount of fuel in the tank. Some white crystals formed on the in-take filter and plugged it up. I also had water in the bottom of the tank that would cause the bike to sputter. I think the white crystals are a result of Ethanol in the fuel.






I replaced it with an aftermarket filter, cleaned out the tank, got fresh fuel, and it has run great since (other than when my injector filter got clogged and when my fuel pump failed).

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Old 08-16-2013, 09:17 AM   #4148
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No other dealer close. Have a highly modified stock exhaust. Removed the stock spark arrester and added a screen type. Also cut the outlet back a lot.

Ya, have to pull the choke out. It used to run the battery down trying to get it started. Bought a lithium ion so I don't have to worry about that now.

Bike has always felt gutless. Have posted on here before about it. Just doesn't sound strong when I get on it hard. Sounds choked up.

Found a used Leo Vinci online. Thinking about trying that out.



Like everyone else said, gutless, even on a stock bike means there's something wrong. I've had aftermarket pipe and found no difference besides making more noise. When on a Dyno at Bazzaz there was not a huge difference between performance with or without aftermarket pipe, a few HP, check back in thread for graph, at least not enough to really make much of a difference for mere mortals like me. My Husa with stock pipe and comp map rips for sure, pulls hard in all gears throughout the RPM range.

Clogged injector, clogged filter found right before the injector in the hose, clogged prescreen of filter in the tank, cracking filter in the tank (mine had that), loose battery terminals or bad battery, bad fuel pump or regulator could all be things to check. I have a timing map switch and while it does change the throttle response going from wild to mild it doesn't make the bike a dog by any means.
Checking fuel pressure could eliminate a few things on the list, you'll need the special tool or a dealer to do that though.
If the bike isn't keeping fuel pressure when off then you have a leak inside the tank, mine had a cracked OEM filter after the pump, before the regulator.
Easiest thing to check will be the inline filter right before the injector, make sure you replace it with the gray one, that's the updated version.

Methinks investigating the issue will help more than buying anything for the bike, assuming you have removed the smog stuff and have the comp map.

Good luck!
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:44 PM   #4149
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Used to riding a bone stock crf450r? Haven't had to touch the motor in the honda because it has always had enough and could put a smile on my face. I dunno, the Berg just doesn't do that for me. Just keep thinking that there is something up with because it sat so long on the dealers floor before it sold. All of you talking about it being a wheelie monster make me jealous!
My bike sat on the showroom floor for two years and it simply rips. The fuel filter sounds like the likely suspect...or could it just be a bad fuel pump?
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:58 AM   #4150
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My bike sat on the showroom floor for two years and it simply rips. The fuel filter sounds like the likely suspect...or could it just be a bad fuel pump?
I will check those two. I do have the all black fuel pump. Figured it would work or it wouldn't? Didn't think there would be an in between. Jerk at my dealer insists that 2011 has no bad fuel pumps and will not replace it. Told me to quit believing everything I read on the Internet! Haha. He is an idiot.

Thanks everyone for the replies. I really like the handling and feel but the motor doesn't impress me like I wish it would. Hopefully I can get it straightened out.

Also, how much rolling resistance should the bike have? On a 6-7% road grade the bike will actually slow down in neutral. It doesn't do it super fast but it loses a mph every 2 seconds or so. I figured it would accelerate? My buddies say that there bikes slow down too and that is normal?

Took it out to Silverton, CO last month. Did have a really good time.

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Old 08-18-2013, 04:32 PM   #4151
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Getting it home in style. In my semis cab.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #4152
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Wow, I've seen bikes hauled creatively before...but in a semi cab!? Must take some serious muscle to get it up there in the first place, let alone in.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:30 PM   #4153
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We just rolled it in out of the pick up trucks bed. The seller was pretty surprised it fit

The bike sometimes dies when you instantly whip the throttle. I love my bikes loud but intake noise is too obnoxious
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:45 PM   #4154
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I'm pretty sure the fuel pump on my 11 390 finally crapped out after 56 hours.

Bikes been stalling out pretty much on every hot ride. especially in the slow tight stuff. It usually starts up again when it cools down but yesterday It left me stranded. I Noticed boiling gas, I do have a fan installed.

I've been reading most everything I can about the dodgy fuel pumps and I just want to verify all the parts I will need (or should need) for the swap out.

I ordered the ca-cycleworks aftermarket pump with the barbed end and I will get some heat tape for the underside tank. Also was going to put on the Proline(?) filter. Probably clean and inspect the injector/tank/ and connections.

I was wondering if I need any upgraded fuel hose?
Does the piece of hose that comes with the new ca pump adequate?
Do I even need to mess with the OEM tank hose?

Read a bunch, could not get a definitive answer. maybe I missed something.

I'd like to solve this issue as it's the only thing wrong with the bike other than my lack of ability to stay on it while intensely grinning.
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:57 AM   #4155
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Wheel spacers Haan with cush hub

Can somebody please measure the length of the spacers for a rear wheel with Haan cush hub. When inserting the original spacers it becomes to broad to fit. The distance sprocket to disk is the same.
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