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Old 05-07-2014, 01:08 PM   #5251
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I bought my '10 FE450 in Arizona recently. After playing around with the adjustments available, I still find the front fork harsh on the rocky trails I ride there. Even with the compression damping zeroed. Now that I'm back in the PNW, are there any suspension specialists in the Portland - Seattle area that anyone could recommend?

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i'll bet you have the stiffer springs in the fork (and then probably shock). what color is your shock spring? if it's not yellow then you might have something else in it.

once i got mine back to stock weight springs it's super plush, took some playing with spring preload but now it rides like a cadillac even when attacking 2' deep whoops in JV.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:11 PM   #5252
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Thanks John. Those are the straps I was looking at. I just don't see how to mount it securely on the subframe. Especially the left side.
maybe loop the ends of the strap around the horns of the subframe ahead of the fender bolt to keep the strap from sliding.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:26 AM   #5253
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i use the kriega haul loops, the rear one is looped around the handgrips under the seat on both sides, doesnt interfere with the seat coming off or the seat release
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:32 AM   #5254
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thinking of switching to .48 springs in the forks and either 8.8 or 8.4 spring on the rear shock. 210 lb rider before gear...likely running a rear safari tank off and on...sound about right?...research and searches seem to point in this direction.
I am using 8.8NM with rear Safari tank on it (190lbs rider) this give me the right sag.

Kept the .44 in front though.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:23 AM   #5255
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Injector cleaner / removal

Having a hot start issue with the 570 and it appears it may be caused by a dirty / dripping injector. The question is do fuel injector cleaners work or am I better off removing it and having it cleaned properly? With regards to removal is there anything I should be aware of? I've got the fuel tank off at the moment and after having a look at it, it appears I need to remove the rubber airfilter housing from the throttle body to access the 2 screws on the top of the fuel rail. Then it looks like I just remove the 2 screws and the injector should just pull out from the throttle body. Does that sound about right? Last thing, how tight of a fit is the breather hose that goes on top of the valve cover meant to be? My hose isn't a tight snug fit as I can slide it off without any issue. Any info would be great.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:30 AM   #5256
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Having a hot start issue with the 570 and it appears it may be caused by a dirty / dripping injector. The question is do fuel injector cleaners work or am I better off removing it and having it cleaned properly? With regards to removal is there anything I should be aware of? I've got the fuel tank off at the moment and after having a look at it, it appears I need to remove the rubber airfilter housing from the throttle body to access the 2 screws on the top of the fuel rail. Then it looks like I just remove the 2 screws and the injector should just pull out from the throttle body. Does that sound about right? Last thing, how tight of a fit is the breather hose that goes on top of the valve cover meant to be? My hose isn't a tight snug fit as I can slide it off without any issue. Any info would be great.
I have had real good luck with Sea Foam. Bought a 1999 Moto Guzzi that the owner was not riding so it had sat for over a year without any gas stabilizer. It ran really rough but a can of Sea Foam split between 3 tanks of gas cleaned it right up. Cheap and easy to do. If it doesn't work you can always send the injector to be cleaned. Good luck.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:15 AM   #5257
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Having a hot start issue with the 570 and it appears it may be caused by a dirty / dripping injector. The question is do fuel injector cleaners work or am I better off removing it and having it cleaned properly? With regards to removal is there anything I should be aware of? I've got the fuel tank off at the moment and after having a look at it, it appears I need to remove the rubber airfilter housing from the throttle body to access the 2 screws on the top of the fuel rail. Then it looks like I just remove the 2 screws and the injector should just pull out from the throttle body. Does that sound about right? Last thing, how tight of a fit is the breather hose that goes on top of the valve cover meant to be? My hose isn't a tight snug fit as I can slide it off without any issue. Any info would be great.
Injector cleaner probably won't work. You need to remove the injector, use a 9V battery to open the injector, and spray cleaner through it. I made a little jig with bits of hose.

I had problems when the bike got hot as well. It turns out it was the KTM inline fuel filter. There is a little plastic screen just before the injector. When it got hot it would swell slightly, blocking fuel flow. Removing it was the answer.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:35 AM   #5258
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Vintagespeed,

The rear shock spring is yellow. I haven't checked the fork springs yet, or the fluid level -- I saw a post that the '10 FE570 was 110mm down from the top, no springs, compressed. I assume that it would be the same for the '10 FE450. I couldn't find a reference in the owners manual for the mm measurement.

FWIW, I just looked at my suspension notes again:

Fork: CD = 28; RD = 18; Preload = 0
Shock: HSCD = 2 turns; LSCD = 24; RD = 23; Preload = haven't measured
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:17 AM   #5259
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...Fork: CD = 28; RD = 18; Preload = 0
Shock: HSCD = 2 turns; LSCD = 24; RD = 23; Preload = haven't measured
yeah, maybe you're just too light for the springs? when you're not in the right weight range for your springs the clickers will do little for you. and if your race sag & rear preload aren't set properly first, the front will feel 'wrong'.
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:59 PM   #5260
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Vintagespeed,

The rear shock spring is yellow. I haven't checked the fork springs yet, or the fluid level -- I saw a post that the '10 FE570 was 110mm down from the top, no springs, compressed. I assume that it would be the same for the '10 FE450. I couldn't find a reference in the owners manual for the mm measurement.

FWIW, I just looked at my suspension notes again:

Fork: CD = 28; RD = 18; Preload = 0
Shock: HSCD = 2 turns; LSCD = 24; RD = 23; Preload = haven't measured
Can't just go by color. You can get springs for WP shocks in white, yellow and orange. The spring should have numbers on it, eg, 72/250(my stock 2011 FE570).
Any of the linear springs should be 250-260mm.

http://slavensracing.com/product-cat...shock-springs/
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:25 PM   #5261
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Uh, I doubt if I'm too light -- more like 230# ready to ride and 69, so I'm not exactly doing moto cross through the whoop de doos. I have been riding in the dirt for many of the 53 years I've been riding, just older and slower now and still having fun . I just need to get with the program and take the shock out and pull the fork springs to see where I'm at.

Thanks for the Slaven's Racing link, Rensho.

Update: The rear spring is a 72/250 so, 7.2 Kg/250mm long. Looks like I should be up around 8.0 Kg, but I want plush so I'd rather be slightly under, say 7.8 Kg. That should transfer more weight to the front.

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Old 05-10-2014, 01:44 PM   #5262
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Ok I've tried searching and had no luck, can anyone tell me which Delo 400 is the one to use in the Berg. After searching for Delo 400 there appears to be several varieties. Any help would be appreciated.
I don't know specifically which Delo guys are running, but I do know that you want to stay away from the "Low E" version. Their non-low emission oils are really good though.
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:04 PM   #5263
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Installed the JD x6 today. Wish I could say it was easy, but it wasn't. I pinched an O-ring in the fuel line and had to take the tank off a couple of times. It's a PIA with the fan in the way. Anyway, it's all set now and I'll report back after we ride tomorrow. If it stops the flameout, than it was worth the headache.


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Old 05-11-2014, 04:19 AM   #5264
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turning the choke/enrichment knob a few clicks solved that for me.Let us know how you like the tuner.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:14 PM   #5265
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You turned it counterclockwise? How many? I think it will make my Rekluse creep, but I'd rather that than flame out.


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