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Old 02-27-2010, 07:29 AM   #1
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Warm and Safe Gen 4?

I'm in the market for new heated gear and trying to decide which way to go.

Anybody tried their new gear and know the difference between the Gen 3 and Gen 4? Website doesn't explain much.

See that new wireless remote control ... pretty sweet.

http://www.warmnsafe.com/index.php?m...ndex&cPath=101

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Old 02-27-2010, 08:04 AM   #2
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I'm in the market for new heated gear and trying to decide which way to go.

Anybody tried their new gear and know the difference between the Gen 3 and Gen 4? Website doesn't explain much.

See that new wireless remote control ... pretty sweet.

http://www.warmnsafe.com/index.php?m...ndex&cPath=101

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Gen 4 has a new heating element. It's supposed to heat up instantly, and heat more evenly while being less bulky. I believe it's similar to the "Micro Wire" stuff that Gerbings is using.

I'd go for the Gen 4 stuff myself if I had a choice, but I have a Gen 3 jacket and really like it.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:04 AM   #3
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I'm in the market for new heated gear and trying to decide which way to go.

Anybody tried their new gear and know the difference between the Gen 3 and Gen 4? Website doesn't explain much.

See that new wireless remote control ... pretty sweet.

http://www.warmnsafe.com/index.php?m...ndex&cPath=101

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I have gen 4 liner and remote control. Both are great. Gen 4 is much better build quality than gen 2 it replaced. Wires are very thin. You can barely feel them.
Remote controller is the only way to go as far as I'm concerned. Works great. Main controller lives in jacket where you plug for jacket and gloves. One power wire goes to battery and that's it. I keep remote on master cylinder dual locked with no wire to bars.
You can see it on far left

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Old 02-27-2010, 08:08 AM   #4
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I keep remote on master cylinder dual locked with no wire to bars.
You can see it on far left


I'm jealous...





... I need to clean up my mess of wires.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:21 AM   #5
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Boon gave as good description of the differences.

Give me a shout if you want a price quote.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:27 AM   #6
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I'm jealous...





... I need to clean up my mess of wires.
Looks like you need to step up to the plate
The gen 3/4 liners have a little pocket in the left pocket for storing the controller. All the coax plugs meet there. You plug it all in once and never have to do it again! Trust me. After you do it, you'll never look like the above again
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:31 PM   #7
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:35 PM   #8
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Is it possible to wire up the gloves and socks or insoles one one circuit and have the jacket on the other without looking like Boon Booni

Do you notice the control box in the pocket or is it small enought to not notice? I don't like having hard objects in my pockets in case of a fall.
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Old 02-27-2010, 02:34 PM   #9
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Is it possible to wire up the gloves and socks or insoles one one circuit and have the jacket on the other without looking like Boon Booni

Do you notice the control box in the pocket or is it small enought to not notice? I don't like having hard objects in my pockets in case of a fall.
It's there. Yeah. Really I only notice it when I put the jacket on. Otherwise, I don't notice it's there.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:31 PM   #10
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W n S Gen 4

Hey everybody - I am not connected [no pun] to W n S butt I just landed a Gen 4 via something they call an 'upgrade'. You can trade in your old liner for a new Gen 4 for something like $65 !!

I am very pleased; warms quickly; is evenly dispersed in its heating; and is lighter weight.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:45 AM   #11
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I did the same, upgraded from a Gen 2 to a Gen 4. The Gen 4 seems much warmer to me, maybe because of its wind-blocking capabilities. The collar fits me better and is more comfortable, too.

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Old 05-28-2010, 09:09 PM   #12
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My Warm&Safe jacket and wireless controller finally arrived – W&S upgraded my 10yr old Gerbing and broken controller for their latest models – my upgrade costs $175 vs $325.
Though I haven’t fired it up yet, my initial impressions are quite favorable – good fit and very light and comfortable, very thin wires and flexible, felt lined neck and reflective neck and arms. Here’s what I got:
Jacket (Size LARGE) , storage sack and splitter

Same pic with flash showing reflective fabric along arms and neck:

Wireless receiver, heat troller and battery harness:

The jacket opened. Lower left 3” hides a power connection for the glove connections in the sleeves – along the bottom is a 10” zipper allowing access to the wiring - :

Arms with glove connections (flash photo showing reflective fabric):

Wash and wear:

Back of jacket:

Fit – sleeves feel good (I'm 6'1", 208ish lbs, variable 36-38 waist):

Size LARGE Form fitting to keep heat close – not to snug, not to loose, comfortable neck:

Another shot showing reflective materials:

Packed in it’s storage bag (~12x12)

Transmitter – has some Velcro tape, but already have a pouch on my handle bars where it will fit right in:

Wireless Receiver – this goes into a pouch in the front pocket and connects to jacket and battery leads:


This jacket is a lot more comfortable than my old Gerbing and packs a whole lot smaller - Warm & Save was easy to work with and I think I'm going to be a satisfied customer. :!:
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:54 PM   #13
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Is it possible to wire up the gloves and socks or insoles one one circuit and have the jacket on the other without looking like Boon Booni

Do you notice the control box in the pocket or is it small enought to not notice? I don't like having hard objects in my pockets in case of a fall.
question, does the bottom of your feet get cold when you ride or the toes? when i ride it is my toes. that is why we make heated socks that heat the toes and ankle. if you ride you design the right products.
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Old 05-29-2010, 01:02 AM   #14
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I upgraded to the G4 and wireless dual controller... very happy. I got an extra lead and now I have heated gear on both bikes. Not having but one wire is nice, even with the gloves. Compared to the older gen you can barely tell there are wires and it heats up right now, almost instantly. Loving it so far and you just can't beat the customer service.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:53 AM   #15
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Gen4

Got a new Gen4 this spring and like it way more than my gerbing.
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