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Old 04-14-2011, 05:01 AM   #766
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+1 Having trouble picturing how big it is.
Go back to post 725, should give you an idea, Dave is not a little guy and you can see how he compares to it. Shirley (standing behind bike) is 5'7". It is a tall bike.
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:00 AM   #767
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Deal. Even though I don't drink anymore, I have a few of my own stories to share in that same vein, and a campfire seems like a great place for the telling. If'n you ever want to hang out with a Marylander living in California, hit me up. Oh, and if (God forbid) you have another Montana-type incident and need repairs out this way, I have a pretty well-equipped light machining & fab shop. a
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yeah, i've had a few of those...gimme a campfire and a little bourbon and i've got a boatload of stories about the flipside to the "attention to detail" factor.

...at least nobody died.

stay tuned.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:45 AM   #768
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Deal. Even though I don't drink anymore, I have a few of my own stories to share in that same vein, and a campfire seems like a great place for the telling. If'n you ever want to hang out with a Marylander living in California, hit me up. Oh, and if (God forbid) you have another Montana-type incident and need repairs out this way, I have a pretty well-equipped light machining & fab shop. a
thanks for the offer, but i'm making sure the bike is well rested before i head west, no road naps allowed. don't think i'll be much west of colorado below the border, but i'll take a rain check on the stories. some of the campfire stories i've heard over the years...man, there's some entertainment.

quite a few guys from this area end up on the west coast, the military moving people around.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:24 PM   #769
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front caliper bracket number two, a pita for sure not getting it perfectly the first time. so many interference issues, it's tough to check fit along the way. everything lined up on the first one, the offset was right, but i decided to move the caliper in 4mm closer to the rotor. start over, brand new piece. made it up, installed it and the 650R caliper, used the long DRZ brake line i got with the forks. then took the bike out for another offroad run.

nice having a front brake again, everything works fine. man, this suspension is plush compared to the old setup...and no, i haven't managed to bottom those forks to the extent that the outer tubes would hit the lower clamp, at least not yet.

when i got back in, pulled the bracket and painted it.



posted up the photo, then realized it's shown upside down and backwards. trust me, it does fit.


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Old 04-17-2011, 07:25 PM   #770
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set me straight

I read a lot of pages on this (but not all)
and can't figure what I'm missing on this.

Did you take a ninja 650r motor and put it in a Versys?
I thought that is what the Versys had in it stock.

lol, as I'm sure I'm all jacked up here, but thanks for a
quick point in the right direction on this.
Great looking bike even though I have confused myself.
Guess I should stay out of the bike build threads, lol.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:24 PM   #771
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Did you take a ninja 650r motor and put it in a Versys?
I thought that is what the Versys had in it stock.
the 650R (ER6F and variants) motor is the higher performance version of the kawasaki ptwin powerplant. the Versys motor looks identical, but makes about 10% less HP and torque.

so yes, that's exactly what happened. sportbike motor in a Versys frame, and the rest of the bike was built around it.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:25 AM   #772
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Why did you choose to use the stock Ninja/Versys caliper? I figure it's hauling a lot more bike, so it might want a lot more brake. I'm thinking I'll use SuMo components on my build.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:55 PM   #773
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Why did you choose to use the stock Ninja/Versys caliper?
i considered a different caliper, but then decided to wait until i stuck on a larger rotor. there's a 300mm on there now, and the combo definitely stops the bike.

...besides, this is a cheap ass build and i had all the parts on the shelf.
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:01 PM   #774
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the 650R (ER6F and variants) motor is the higher performance version of the kawasaki ptwin powerplant. the Versys motor looks identical, but makes about 10% less HP and torque.
THanks Jd, at least I wasn't too far off.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:10 PM   #775
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Mate that bike is just horn! Well done on a great build and thanks for all the great info and how-to tips along the way. First class stuff!
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:49 AM   #776
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THanks Jd, at least I wasn't too far off.
nope, not at all. the detuned Versys motor has been the subject of much confusion...and discussion. that's why i use the term "cop motor" for the 650R/ER6/EX650 sportbike engine. i also made up the "649HP" designation for this engine. 10% doesn't seem like much, but makes a big difference in how the bike runs. around 70hp in stock trim is plenty for a gravel runner.
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:57 AM   #777
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Mate that bike is just horn!
thanks...that's good, right?

glad you enjoyed the build so far, more on the way.
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Old 04-19-2011, 05:14 AM   #778
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bracket

Though a thick coat looks good, for high stress parts each should be mated with a minimum coating less the paint break away and the parts come loose.
ask anyone with those cheap fold up trailers that have not scrapped the lug nut bearing area how often they snug their wheels.
From reading your posts you run this bike hard leaving no room for error.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:05 AM   #779
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hadn't given any thought to selling them, they're really just for my use. i found it easier to make a mold for these parts rather than just a one off piece. same with my mini fairing mold. if damaged, or i decide i don't like the way i did some final shaping on the piece, i can easily make another.
will you let me know if you give it some thought. I could use that on a DL1000 conversion I am contemplating...
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:10 PM   #780
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Though a thick coat looks good, for high stress parts each should be mated with a minimum coating...
probably only a 2mil coating on there, might look like more because it's wet. you make a good point though, thanks for the input.

i would have liked to have fabbed this part in aluminum, but i didn't have any alloy and some of the bolt holes are a little close to the edge. i'll do it in stainless next time.
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