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Old 12-18-2010, 05:28 AM   #76
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Carb flanges?
these ptwins are fuel injected.
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:34 AM   #77
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these ptwins are fuel injected.
Right...meant to say intake flange
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:48 AM   #78
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Right...meant to say intake flange
no, motor is bone stock.



hey, these things will be on the bike before too long, or not, in which case they never happened.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:42 AM   #79
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hey mike, whatcha doing straying from orange city to the cheap as dirt rat bike section? maybe you need a lower ride height rat ninja version for your trip to Labrador. here's the old bike below the Churchill River on phase 3 of the trans lab.



agree with you on some of the welding you see on these frames. i could teach my grand daughter to do better in about 15 minutes. maybe less.
Like you, I'm always searching for something more suited (note that I didn't say necessarily better!) both for the ride and my preferences du jour. When I saw the Rat Ninja, the first thing I thought was "Perfect, this will do everything I need and I can make it fit me." Unfortunately, I don't have the tools or the space so I have to watch and learn and if I do get the space (Lord please let the market recover!), I'd definitely try to build one. I don't want a "dirt" bike Dave - I want something that I can run across Labrador or Alaska that is bulletproof, strong enough and comfortable enough that I can enjoy the trip without a constant adrenalin rush. I'm "In" for the duration and anything else you put together. Who knows, maybe some day I'll have a decent place to build one.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:11 AM   #80
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When I saw the Rat Ninja, the first thing I thought was "Perfect, this will do everything I need and I can make it fit me."
yep, these bikes can be built to fit ya, no problem. they can also be built as more of a single track bike, but that's not what mine are. here's sheila p****s' bike in front of my last one-



it's like a 3/4 size version of mine built standard ride height to fit her. before you say "chick's bike", this thing is a damn rocket ship with her on board, very fast and light. the fabrication work is outstanding. there are some additional things i would do for northern travel, but it gives you an idea of the different ways these bikes can be built.

you must know mike and sheila and could arrange to see it if interested.

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Old 12-18-2010, 08:25 AM   #81
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my last one-

Do you have a build thread for the last one? Looks ace.

We have the Versys here ... ah, the road bike is the ER6N.
Sure as hell wont find one for what you're spending.

Please continue, can't wait to see the result.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:46 AM   #82
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Do you have a build thread for the last one? Looks ace.

We have the Versys here but i'm damned if i've ever seen a v-twin Ninja.
old build thread is over here mixed in with a ride report. don't go in there unless you have plenty of time on your hands...maybe snowed in somewhere.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ead.php?t=5480


no vtwin ninjas. the "V" in V649HP is for Versys since the bike is built around the versys frame, while the 649HP is the sportbike engine.

so it's really a rat versys with a cop motor.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:52 AM   #83
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... ah, the road bike is the ER6N.
both the bikes in the photo are based on the Ninja 650R model designation in the States, but otherwise known as the ER6F, or EX650.
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I don't believe I know Sheila JD but I'd sure like to see her bike. With the damage to my back, I've shrunk near two inches and shorter is better.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:35 AM   #85
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I don't believe I know Sheila JD but I'd sure like to see her bike. With the damage to my back, I've shrunk near two inches and shorter is better.
you would have met them at jeffs place in bedford, but she didn't have the bike then. mike was the rider who broke his new connie in half that day.

2" ain't nuthin', now you can tuck right in, probably worth 10-15mph on the top end.

PM for contact info if you're interested. they're top notch and would enjoy showing you the bike.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:41 PM   #86
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probed around that gap at the frame stem with a length of wire, and there's nothing behind that glob of weld.



there's an even larger opening on the underside of the same assembly, also with a puddle of weld in front of it.



an assumption, but they must not have intended to weld these joints. i decided to leave them alone. they would require multiple passes to close and i don't want that much heat.

clipped everything off the frame that doesn't have something specific mounted to it.



my weight reduction program starts off with a total of 6.6oz, big deal.

the welds were ground flush with a 120 grit disc. you can't just grind away on these welds, it takes a light touch on the frame tubes.





the exposed metal gets smoothed with a little filler, and then primed. looks better already.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:15 PM   #87
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A paddle wheeled sanding disc would smooth that right out. No filler required.

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Old 12-18-2010, 06:36 PM   #88
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A paddle wheeled sanding disc would smooth that right out. No filler required.

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i think that procedure only works on KLR frames. these cool Versys frames require something a little different.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:59 PM   #89
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old build thread is over here mixed in with a ride report. don't go in there unless you have plenty of time on your hands...maybe snowed in somewhere.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ead.php?t=5480


no vtwin ninjas. the "V" in V649HP is for Versys since the bike is built around the versys frame, while the 649HP is the sportbike engine.

so it's really a rat versys with a cop motor.
I'm with you, thanks for the clarification.

Just got in from work, wife hasn't got up yet and it's -12c outside and i've got a nice beer so i'll start through the other build thread!
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:56 AM   #90
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I like the direction you are going with this, after modding my new bike and reading all of the converted to dual-sport threads, I wanted to start over with just a versys frame, cut off the crap I did not need...etc...etc.. Good luck with the build.

My guess on the two machined parts are, the forks !
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