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Old 12-13-2014, 12:57 AM   #1
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what do I want for my next bike?

the wishlist is as follows

Less than 120kg (280lb)
30-40hp
low maintenance (I currently have a DRZ)
longevity (I currently have a DRZ)
able to do 100km/hr ( 60 mph) without screaming (I also have a wr250F)so maybe a 6 speed
able to have a suitably low 1st gear.
prefer 4t
dont care if fuel inj or carby
should be able do 120-150km ( 70- 90miles) on a tank (8 litres? or 2.2 gal)

Am considering the 2015 wr250F (one chinglish website said 37hp), had a quick glance at a Beta 350RR. I have just had enough of the weight of the DRZ but I love the steady power and low down torque of it, it is so easy just to tractor up the hills without having your face ripped off if you jerk the throttle.

Please feel free to chime in with a plug for your recommendation, What would YOU do?
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:32 AM   #2
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:26 PM   #3
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Big bore the DRZ :)

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Old 12-13-2014, 12:35 PM   #4
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Yamaha WR250R.

Modded ones can be as light as 120 kg dry and just above 30 crank hp. Low maintenance.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:08 PM   #5
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KTM 500 EXC. Nothing else comes close. The WRR isn't bad, if you're on a budget (I have one and its good.)
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:18 PM   #6
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WR450F, you can get them to 120kg with a pipe and strip a few other bits off like the KTM tow hitch point they use as a rear fender in Aus.

The IMS 12 litre tank is the go
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:35 PM   #7
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I had a DRZ for 8 years. Did a lot of cool mods to it (stiffer springs, Race Tech kit to the shock, custom valving front and rear by Eddie Sisneros (before he lost the plot) Hotcams, etc etc. It was a good bike. Rode it in the desert of Southern California and the gnarly high rocks of Colorado. The big yellow pig never let me down.

Then I bought a '10 Husaberg FE450 and I feel like I died and went to heaven. Learned my lesson. Don't try to make a slow heavy bike better, just buy a better bike and go riding! I got the 'Berg plated in Colorado, ironically perhaps, with it's truly wide ratio KTM XC-W 6 speed trans, it is a better highway bike than my DRZ was. Geared 14/50 for dirt, the DRZ was buzzing pretty good beyond 60 mph. 1st gear will winch you up a cliff and the 6th gear in the 'Berg only becomes truly usable above 50 mph, 65 is a piece of cake engine wise, but the wind wants to tear you off the motorcycle. Wheel hop on the street at speed was also an issue, the 'Berg will easily go fast enough that you have to use weights to balance the wheels for the speed.

The XC4 engine KTM based 'Berg has been no problem to maintain and own over the last 4 years, even for this former DRZ owner. The KTMs are too much work "maintenance nannies" are missing out. These bikes are not as finicky and intense to keep as many make them out to be.

If you have the cash, the KTM 500 is the pinnacle truly off road capable street legal dual sport, without a doubt. The only real problem for the 500 is they are expensive.
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:06 PM   #8
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Yamaha WR250R.

Modded ones can be as light as 120 kg dry and just above 30 crank hp. Low maintenance.


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Old 12-13-2014, 02:40 PM   #9
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Don't try to make a slow heavy bike better, just buy a better bike and go riding!


Says it perfectly, there comes a point where the mods take up more time than the riding. why buy a bike and make it "OK", just buy an "OK" bike and make it better
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:49 PM   #10
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I just picked up a 1985 Xl350R and it meets the above criteria. Cost me less than the tax on a new bike.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:11 PM   #11
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Thanks for the laugh.
Modded with a turbo can put them at over 50WHP.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:15 PM   #12
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Says it perfectly, there comes a point where the mods take up more time than the riding. why buy a bike and make it "OK", just buy an "OK" bike and make it better
It depends on what YOU want to do.

I like to also carry a passenger, sometimes for considerable distance with luggage, and I don't feel the need to do race pace. A KLR 650 feels monstrous to me, but I'm strong enough and able enough to muscle around a DR650SE in the sand and mud. Some of the smaller/dirtier enduro/DS bikes may be much better in the dirt, but they aren't going to be as nice for a short inseam and a lot of 2up with luggage on interstate or in city traffic.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:32 PM   #13
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KTM has their 690 for your longer street trip and 2 up needs. That 690 engine has hand of God power and while it is heavy, it has quality suspension and can do real off road with a big strong and good rider aboard. Other than purely cost considerations, I see no real reason for the DR/KLR/XRL to exist anymore. The 690 blows them all completely away.

Of course the 690 is hideously expensive. Given that unfortunate reality, I would probably choose the Husky TE610/630 and after that, the DR, as it is most like an updated version of the XL600 I had back in the day, and that was one fun motorcycle. Then again, a lot of that probably had to do with the fact that I was young, dumb and fearless back then. To the XL's credit, it was always a willing partner in crime
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:45 PM   #14
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Consider a awesome bike that is often overlooked,570 berg.There is a thread about them in thumpers.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:12 PM   #15
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Yes, if I was listing 3 bikes it would be

390 Berg
570 Berg
WR450F

There are plenty of low K low hr 70 deg's around

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Consider a awesome bike that is often overlooked,570 berg.There is a thread about them in thumpers.
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