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Old 06-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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Shinko 700

Who's tried the new(ish) Shinko 700 tires? I tried the usual forum search and was surprised to find very little info. Someone's got to have given them a try.

If so, how do you like them? How was the traction, both on and off pavement? How did they wear?

I'm thinking about running a rear 700 along with a TKC80 front on my XR650L for a Trans-Lab trip later this summer. Would love to hear about people's experiences.

Thanks.

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Old 06-11-2009, 03:41 PM   #2
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I've spent loads on the internet and have hardly found anything good about them.

I generally don't like the idea of cheap tires, and a little time searching usually backs up my theory.

IF you want inexpensive, my recommendation would be Kenda. They sponsor bicycle racing, PepBoys carry's their car line and they have awards manufacturing and safety . But, I find their sidewall info and published weights VERY inaccurate, and I think they are made of nylon.

I had one but I don't have enough experience riding to offer a valid opinion.


I believe Maxxis is the performance branch of Shinco. I think the story goes, they had such a crappy rep when they wanted to come out w/ a performance line, nobody would buy them. So they changed its name.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:46 PM   #3
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let us know & please take some pics.
haven't seen any reports yet.
the mold is a kings. shinko bought the mold.

a better matched higher end german tire (to match your high end front tire) would be mefo explorer or heidenau k60
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:49 PM   #4
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maxxis (tawain a.k.a. china) & shinko (japan/korea) are not related.
maxxis is high end of chen shing

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I've spent loads on the internet and have hardly found found anything good about them.

I generally don't like the idea of cheap tires, and a little time searching usually backs up my theory.

IF you want inexpensive, my recommendation would be Kenda. They sponsor bicycle racing, PepBoys carry's their car line and they have awards manufacturing and safety . But, I find their sidewall info and published weights VERY inaccurate, and I think they are made of nylon.

I had one but I don't have enough experience riding to offer a valid opinion.


I believe Maxxis is the performance branch of Shinco. I think the story goes, they had such a crappy rep when they wanted to come out w/ a performance line, nobody would buy them. So they changed its name.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:00 PM   #5
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a better matched higher end german tire (to match your high end front tire) would be mefo explorer or heidenau k60
Yeah, my original thought was a Mefo Explorer, but they're freaking expensive. I could buy a TKC AND a Shinko 700 for less than the price of a Mefo. As for the Heidenau, they're not actually available here yet, are they?

I'll probably end up just running a TKC rear on my trip -- I'm just a little concerned about it lasting for the whole thing.

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:14 PM   #6
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Yeah, my original thought was a Mefo Explorer, but they're freaking expensive. I could buy a TKC AND a Shinko 700 for less than the price of a Mefo. As for the Heidenau, they're not actually available here yet, are they?

I'll probably end up just running a TKC rear on my trip -- I'm just a little concerned about it lasting for the whole thing.

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sorry dude, thought you used a 130-17 which is avail right now
http://www.moto-amore.com/heidenau/index.html
looks like no 18 in that model & size will be avail.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:47 PM   #7
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Shinko and Cheng Shin are NOT related.

Shinko makes quality tires.
Cheng Shin makes shit. They also make Maxxis.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:04 AM   #8
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The 700 seems to be about the same style as the Metzler Sahara Enduro 3. Might want to check that out, too.

A lot of people say it's the same tire as the discontinued King KT-966, and Shinko bought their mold.
I'm calling bullshit on that for three reasons:

1. It's a different tread pattern.
2. Shinko uses good rubber. King does not.
3. The King KT-966 isn't even discontinued! It's still on their website, even!
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:02 AM   #9
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sorry dude, thought you used a 130-17 which is avail right now
http://www.moto-amore.com/heidenau/index.html
looks like no 18 in that model & size will be avail.
Actually I see that they do have a 140/80-18 available, which is what I run on my XRL, but it's considerably more expensive than a TKC.

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The 700 seems to be about the same style as the Metzler Sahara Enduro 3. Might want to check that out, too.
Again, significantly more expensive than a TKC. Did I mention that I'm a cheap bastard?

I'm actually kind of tempted to try the 700 rear. It's half the price of the TKC and is knobby enough for the Trans-Lab. I just wish I knew how it wears and how it handles on paved twisties (where the TKCs are surprisingly good).

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Old 06-12-2009, 07:50 AM   #10
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I've spent loads on the internet and have hardly found anything good about them.

I generally don't like the idea of cheap tires, and a little time searching usually backs up my theory.

IF you want inexpensive, my recommendation would be Kenda. They sponsor bicycle racing, PepBoys carry's their car line and they have awards manufacturing and safety . But, I find their sidewall info and published weights VERY inaccurate, and I think they are made of nylon.

I had one but I don't have enough experience riding to offer a valid opinion.


I believe Maxxis is the performance branch of Shinco. I think the story goes, they had such a crappy rep when they wanted to come out w/ a performance line, nobody would buy them. So they changed its name.
Kendas are for the most part garbage. IRCs are a better choice for the lower end of the price spectrum.

Shinko have no relation to Maxxis. They were formerly Yokahama tire company. They got bought out by another company who just changed the name. I can't say about motorcycle tires, but that company used to make high end car tires with an excellent reputation.

I too have been researching this tire and have been curious and will probably try it.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:23 AM   #11
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I bought a set of shinko 700 rear tires. So far I have put about 550 miles on the first one. I started a report of the on the DR650 thread. Today I went out to my hunting camp to give them a try in the mud after a few days of rain. Keep in mind they are a 50/50 tire and do not compare to the 760 Trackmaster for off road. I am running a Trackmaster on the front. The shinko performed better than I had expected. The hill going in my lane is steep and mud over clay, I was spinning most of the way but made it in one shot. I have had other tires that would not make the hill so I would say that if they provied the milage that they should I'll be pleased.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:38 AM   #12
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I've got a Shinko 700 on the rear of my KLR650. I like the handling on pavement and gravel but haven't had a chance to get off road yet.

The tire has about 1200 miles on it now and looks like it may be good for about 5000 miles.

I had the Kenda 270s on my DR650 and they were great off road but the Shinko feels better on the pavement. It's hard to compare because they were on different bikes. For the price I think it's a good tire.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:23 PM   #13
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:13 AM   #14
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Shinko have no relation to Maxxis. They were formerly Yokahama tire company. They got bought out by another company who just changed the name. I can't say about motorcycle tires, but that company used to make high end car tires with an excellent reputation.
Shinko bought only the motorcycle tyres part of Yokohama. Yokohama still make car tyres.
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:32 PM   #15
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Allright, I'm in. Too cheap not to try. Ordered a pair of rears, the 5.10/18 will try them with a TKC front. I have a set of karoos that will look badass, but lasting won't really be the thing they do best.

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