Shorai battery for KTM990/LC8 - Page 8

jamesbrown · 03-20-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

I used a little trick to get those pesky bolts lined up for the install. Used a bit of foam scrap as a shim, worked great.

I seem to have my battery in and out quite a lot for whatever reason so I put a headless bolt on each terminal, secured by a nut on each side of the terminal face and a final nut to secure all the connectors. Saves faffing. Need to do the same with the crash bars when I get a minute....

Orangecicle · 03-26-2011, 07:03 PM

Dang! Just when I have almost everything squared away on my bike, my battery dies, and nobody has Shorai stock anywhere.

jamesbrown · 03-26-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangecicle

Dang! Just when I have almost everything squared away on my bike, my battery dies, and nobody has Shorai stock anywhere.

Some inmates to check:

http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/shorai.html
http://www.advmachines.com/
http://www.blackdogcw.com/

Probably forgetting some....

Orangecicle · 03-26-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesbrown

Some inmates to check:

http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/shorai.html
http://www.advmachines.com/
http://www.blackdogcw.com/

Probably forgetting some....

Dry holes. Already checked, but thanks.

cyborg · 05-14-2011, 07:20 PM

Added 2.4Ghz Wireless Spread Spectrum Battery Telemetry to my Shorai LiFePO4 battery, just because it can and I could.

Less than 2oz of extra stuff, RC tech:

Key off:

Key on, bike not running, with HID's running:

Works up to 1/2 mile away. Monitors each of the 4 cells in the battery, Amps 10mA up to 100A (150A burst), Ambient Air Temp -4 to 176F (-20 to +80C)

KTM450SX · 05-14-2011, 07:32 PM

Haha thats cool!

FINNDIAN · 05-14-2011, 07:58 PM

installed mine under the seat. Cranks over like a bastage!

jamesbrown · 05-14-2011, 08:15 PM

Dayum, you can check your battery from the campsite shitter. I've always wanted to do that

That's awesome.

summitdog · 05-14-2011, 09:47 PM

I ordered a Shorai battery and the distributor told me that the battery was on back order. Anyone else experiencing delays?

Scotty

cpmodem · 05-14-2011, 09:54 PM

Butt, is that 70ma of draw with the key off? Whatcha got goin' on? Blender makin' pina coladas?

jamesbrown · 05-14-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cpmodem

Butt, is that 70ma of draw with the key off? Whatcha got goin' on? Blender makin' pina coladas?

That's all the sensors

cpmodem · 05-14-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesbrown

That's all the sensors

cpmodem · 05-14-2011, 10:24 PM

Very cool. I'll bet you have everything on hand to make it remote start with just a little more effort.

cyborg · 05-14-2011, 10:29 PM

Oopsie, reposting, nuked by accident. Added a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpmodem

Butt, is that 70ma of draw with the key off? Whatcha got goin' on? Blender makin' pina coladas?

The sense package is not monitored for it's own draw, but it draws about 8 mA at the 4 samples/sec xmit rate.

This Quanum system is cheap, so not quite NASA grade accuracy. On the low end due to whatever weirdness it can indicate anywhere from 0.0 to 0.2 since the AMP sensor is so wide-range, and doesn't always reset to 0.0 from negative current draw, maybe it doesn't like that. The AMP sensor is uni-directional on this sensor so once the bike starts, the AMP reading drop to zero because the alternator is backfeeding current. RC applications are one-way, just drawing.

The real indicator is the battery voltages, which are spot-on. If they aren't dropping much, I don't worry about it. I have different AMP meters for the really small draws, for troubleshooting. The inexpensive AMP sensor was bundled with the Temp sensor, so I hooked it up, what the heck. My 990S indicates about 108Amps while cranking cold, about 80-90 amps when warm. It can peak up to almost 135Amps on first crank, as captured by a recording AMP meter:

The gadgets used were this and this and this if you are so inclined.

and these to mod to connect to the 4S balance port

cyborg · 05-14-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cpmodem

Very cool. I'll bet you have everything on hand to make it remote start with just a little more effort.

Nah, I could... but no.

Since these LFX batts are so new, and have the ability to monitor individual cells, the geek engineer in me just had to know. I found something way cheaper for that than trying to DIY from scratch.... and I can watch it from my desk at home or work.

03-26-2011, 07:03 PM	#107
Orangecicle Beastly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: West Des Moines, IA Oddometer: 1,195	Dang! Just when I have almost everything squared away on my bike, my battery dies, and nobody has Shorai stock anywhere. __________________ "I'd like to meet the joker who had the nerve to call this a road!" -- Walter Sigmann "Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/brad.horn.9

05-14-2011, 07:32 PM	#111
KTM450SX Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Bend, Oregon Oddometer: 263	Haha thats cool! __________________ 2008 KTM 250XC 2007 KTM 950 SE 2005 YZ 125 the mini braaaaaaap

05-14-2011, 07:58 PM	#112
FINNDIAN Mine goes to 11 Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Wawa, ont, Canada Oddometer: 1,569	installed mine under the seat. Cranks over like a bastage! __________________ The more side roads you stop to explore, the less likely that life will pass you by. ~Robert Brault. 2004 KTM 950 S GO!!!!(Blacked out),03 Beta Rev3, 1973 Rokon Trailbreaker 2x2 mk3 auto, 1999 Intruder 1500, 05 Ruckus, 90 DRBIG 800, 79 GS850My last location and updates-Ride Reports

05-14-2011, 09:47 PM	#114
summitdog It's an Azawakh Joined: Jul 2008 Location: San Jose, California Oddometer: 187	I ordered a Shorai battery and the distributor told me that the battery was on back order. Anyone else experiencing delays? Scotty __________________ General Disclaimer: Nothing in the above posting is intended as, nor should it be construed as, legal advice. Every situation has a particular nuance that needs to be considered individually. If you believe you need legal advice, please seek out an attorney. Scotty Storey, Attorneys at Law 800-264-4379 info@twowheellaw.com AFM #733

05-14-2011, 09:54 PM	#115
cpmodem Orange Caveman Joined: Nov 2004 Location: masa yee yah tee 59° 14' 9" N / 135° 26' 42" W Oddometer: 7,100	Butt, is that 70ma of draw with the key off? Whatcha got goin' on? Blender makin' pina coladas? __________________ -cp DISCLAIMER: All observations made in this post are mine and based solely on my own anecdotal experiences, and may contain large doses of facetiousness. YMMV, of course. You are "on your own", and I take no responsibility if someone tries anything in this post and gets into trouble with the law, damages their person or property, or goes blind. Take everything you read or hear "anywhere" butt especially on the Web with a large dose of salt.

05-14-2011, 07:20 PM	#110
cyborg ^OP Potius Sero Quam Numquam Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Pacific NorthWet Oddometer: 4,406	Added 2.4Ghz Wireless Spread Spectrum Battery Telemetry to my Shorai LiFePO4 battery, just because it can and I could. Less than 2oz of extra stuff, RC tech: Key off: Key on, bike not running, with HID's running: Works up to 1/2 mile away. Monitors each of the 4 cells in the battery, Amps 10mA up to 100A (150A burst), Ambient Air Temp -4 to 176F (-20 to +80C)

05-14-2011, 08:15 PM	#113
jamesbrown Lefty tighty. Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Gone Oddometer: 6,413	Dayum, you can check your battery from the campsite shitter. I've always wanted to do that That's awesome.

05-14-2011, 10:24 PM	#118
cpmodem Orange Caveman Joined: Nov 2004 Location: masa yee yah tee 59° 14' 9" N / 135° 26' 42" W Oddometer: 7,100	Very cool. I'll bet you have everything on hand to make it remote start with just a little more effort. __________________ -cp DISCLAIMER: All observations made in this post are mine and based solely on my own anecdotal experiences, and may contain large doses of facetiousness. YMMV, of course. You are "on your own", and I take no responsibility if someone tries anything in this post and gets into trouble with the law, damages their person or property, or goes blind. Take everything you read or hear "anywhere" butt especially on the Web with a large dose of salt.

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