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Old 12-08-2011, 08:19 PM   #511
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Ok, I have another wheel question for the gurus. Will an RD400 18" cast rear wheel work on an 81 XS650 with cast wheels? This is going to be my vintage ADV bike and cast wheels are ok, but an 18 incher sure would make tire selection simpler...
I think the axle size is different for starters...
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:12 AM   #512
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I think the axle size is different for starters...
Yep, got caught out with that idea myself! more chance of swapping with a SR500, front wheel off an XS1100 should fit any standards with 35mm forks - '77 [onwards] & Specials
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:19 PM   #513
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Something else to check about regarding an 18" cast wheel swap would be to see if you can get the size sprocket you want for the wheel, since the XS650 uses a smaller rear sprocket than most bikes.
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Old 12-09-2011, 08:48 PM   #514
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Something else to check about regarding an 18" cast wheel swap would be to see if you can get the size sprocket you want for the wheel, since the XS650 uses a smaller rear sprocket than most bikes.

MikesXs carry a range of rear sprockets; 30T [long tall Sally] to 38T [climb brick walls], makes for interesting combos depending on what you want
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:51 AM   #515
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MikesXs carry a range of rear sprockets; 30T [long tall Sally] to 38T [climb brick walls], makes for interesting combos depending on what you want
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Yes, I use 17/30 on my '79. What I was referring to was 18" cast wheel swaps. For instance, I believe the smallest rear sprocket that will fit an SR500 wheel is a 40 tooth.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:59 AM   #516
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Pretty much done with the engine swap/refurbish/upgrades.
Just did a clutch job yesterday. When the motor was in the test bike, I thought I had some slippage. Once in the regular bike, confirmed that you could slip when you're getting it on.

Ordered parts from 650 central tue, arrived thur, fixed her up friday.

Clutch revamp on an 81H motor...
New fiber plates, springs...
Throw out bearing upgrade...
1 piece pushrod...
Can't make her slip now!

Last refurbish was in 2000, new additions for 2011...
3" shorter fender from special
Bates tailight
Short stem signals, red lenses
81 motor, pamco ignition
All new std airbox parts/filters
rebuilt 77 carbs
wassel upswept shakers on stock headers...

OK, so this is like having "glass packs", certainly a louder sound. Lots of burble on deceleration. The system now has no crossover and with these "shortys" there is a bit of power lost on lowend. At 4,000 R's she really kicks in!

Still getting used to the sight of the back end...



Today I'll welcome in a new era of "XS650 appresh" with a toy run out of town.
Now my buddy can have the 78 motor I had been running for 10 years that belongs in his 78... he'll have to rebuild it though!

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Old 12-10-2011, 08:52 AM   #517
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Yep, got caught out with that idea myself! more chance of swapping with a SR500, front wheel off an XS1100 should fit any standards with 35mm forks - '77 [onwards] & Specials
Cheers
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Ok then, what would be the best way to get an 18" cast rear on an XS650? I guess I should have been more specific... And it wouldn't have to be a disc setup either, actually I'd prefer a drum to shed some weight.

Also, isn't there a swingarm that will bolt on and give a couple more inches wheelbase? This is going to be my vintage/scrambler D/S type thingy, so I'd like to get it stretched out a lil, maybe even slightly longer forks and a set of early 80's Ohlins I have for the rear to gain a lil clearance. Unless someone's already tried it and had horrible luck, in which case I'd hope someone talks me out of it!!
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:51 AM   #518
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Ok then, what would be the best way to get an 18" cast rear on an XS650? I guess I should have been more specific... And it wouldn't have to be a disc setup either, actually I'd prefer a drum to shed some weight.

Also, isn't there a swingarm that will bolt on and give a couple more inches wheelbase? This is going to be my vintage/scrambler D/S type thingy, so I'd like to get it stretched out a lil, maybe even slightly longer forks and a set of early 80's Ohlins I have for the rear to gain a lil clearance. Unless someone's already tried it and had horrible luck, in which case I'd hope someone talks me out of it!!
I've seen a cast 18" off an XS400 done before, but I don't know how they did it. I have one in the rafters that will eventually go back on the wife's XS400...
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Old 12-10-2011, 12:29 PM   #519
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I thought there was a swingarm update out there. Maybe from a Virago? It was a square tube & a small shop in Denver was doing the mods on donor swingarms.
So do a search --I think I found them through one of the galleries on one of the big 3 650 sites. {Mike's, xs650, 650motorcycles?}
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Old 12-10-2011, 03:57 PM   #520
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Ok then, what would be the best way to get an 18" cast rear on an XS650? I guess I should have been more specific... And it wouldn't have to be a disc setup either, actually I'd prefer a drum to shed some weight.
I do think the XS400 would be the easiest. Here's one: http://www.650motorcycles.com/DanPoore.html
I think the sprocket might need a spacer to line up correctly, and you might have trouble finding one smaller than 36 teeth. Maybe the XS650 sprocket can be drilled to the 4 bolt pattern?

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I thought there was a swingarm update out there. Maybe from a Virago? It was a square tube & a small shop in Denver was doing the mods on donor swingarms.
So do a search --I think I found them through one of the galleries on one of the big 3 650 sites. {Mike's, xs650, 650motorcycles?}
Yamaha Radian swingarm is the one.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:08 PM   #521
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:54 PM   #522
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here's the spot I didn't like today

See the lense parts, gas puddle? You could hardly stand here...



she held up pretty good.



Bent brake arm, broken brake lever, busted signal, tweaked fender, scuffs, ect.
Rode it home and fixed it back to normal.
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:01 AM   #523
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Yes, I use 17/30 on my '79. What I was referring to was 18" cast wheel swaps. For instance, I believe the smallest rear sprocket that will fit an SR500 wheel is a 40 tooth.
Haven't check that out [sprocket mount] but the one I had came out of a job lot that I bought [disc brake rear], in it was this 18" cast wheel, Yamaha for sure, axle diameter was the same as XS650, had a 34T cog & looked the same as XS650 units.
I sold it @ a swapmeet 2yrs ago for $400, didn't need it & the bloke who bought it was keen buy any I could find!
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:00 AM   #524
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http://www.sprocketspecialists.com/

These guys could probably make a sprocket to fit the XS400,SR400/500, XS1100 etc wheel swap...
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:26 PM   #525
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Pretty much done with the engine swap/refurbish/upgrades.
Just did a clutch job yesterday. When the motor was in the test bike, I thought I had some slippage. Once in the regular bike, confirmed that you could slip when you're getting it on.

Ordered parts from 650 central tue, arrived thur, fixed her up friday.

Clutch revamp on an 81H motor...
New fiber plates, springs...
Throw out bearing upgrade...
1 piece pushrod...
Can't make her slip now!

Last refurbish was in 2000, new additions for 2011...
3" shorter fender from special
Bates tailight
Short stem signals, red lenses
81 motor, pamco ignition
All new std airbox parts/filters
rebuilt 77 carbs
wassel upswept shakers on stock headers...

OK, so this is like having "glass packs", certainly a louder sound. Lots of burble on deceleration. The system now has no crossover and with these "shortys" there is a bit of power lost on lowend. At 4,000 R's she really kicks in!

Still getting used to the sight of the back end...



Today I'll welcome in a new era of "XS650 appresh" with a toy run out of town.
Now my buddy can have the 78 motor I had been running for 10 years that belongs in his 78... he'll have to rebuild it though!

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