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Old 05-19-2012, 07:09 AM   #901
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I was tempted to do that, can't remember whether I did it or not!
Or was that on the Boyer system on 'Kenny' ?
Both bikes now have over 50,000kms / 31,500mls since last major overhaul
'Kenny' has camchain noise [?], & 'White Beast' is starting to look like a Triumph with oil leaks around the head gasket etc.
Just keep riding until I get some spare time to strip them down & have a look @ what's going on inside, maybe renew the rings & camchain too?
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OK, thank you for that...
And if your memory on the washer changes...let me know.

Ya, I'm a little sad as I have some seepage at the cylinder base gasket on the 81 motor I recently swapped into the 77D. I'll get by with a rag on hand to clean up the slight deposits that tend to pool at the case behind the jugs.

Anybody else do the shimming?
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #902
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Shimming the ATU rod

I had 0.031" of axial end play, which I thought was a little on the large size for my Pamco. I installed a 0.015" shim washer behind the slotted disk on the right end.

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Old 05-20-2012, 04:54 AM   #903
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I got mine from Omars, and I think they're great. My XS had the stock shocks, and they'd long ago given up damping. Just springing around. The Omars Red Wings were a quick bolt-on affair, and instant improvement. The bike is good and solid and well-damped. I bought them with the lightest weight springs, because I'm around 175, but I run them on the lowest pre-set and I like the way they feel. They're supposed to be rebuildable, so if I ever get around to that I might try lighter weight oil, but for the money I think they're great. But then again, my old ones were pretty worn and bouncy. I spend a lot of time in backroad winding stuff, and relatively bumpy pavement, and that's why I might lighten up the oil weight. I think they could use a little less damping, but happy with the springing.

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Old 05-20-2012, 06:26 AM   #904
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I had 0.031" of axial end play, which I thought was a little on the large size for my Pamco. I installed a 0.015" shim washer behind the slotted disk on the right end.
I see it! Thanks for that...
What material was the shim?
I opened up one of my old engines sitting on a shelf to find that even a stock points set up has just about the same end play.
But still, I think I will go for this adjustment to reduce this end play.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:47 PM   #905
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I see it! Thanks for that...
What material was the shim?
I opened up one of my old engines sitting on a shelf to find that even a stock points set up has just about the same end play.
But still, I think I will go for this adjustment to reduce this end play.
The shim was just a metal washer I found in my spare washer collection. With points, the axial movement may not be a problem, but I didn't want the Pamco rotor moving in and out that much.

Regretably the picture is a bit large................just learning to post on this site, and this was my first picture, lol.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:26 AM   #906
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The shim was just a metal washer I found in my spare washer collection. With points, the axial movement may not be a problem, but I didn't want the Pamco rotor moving in and out that much.

Regretably the picture is a bit large................just learning to post on this site, and this was my first picture, lol.
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I'm assuming that there is still some axial movement ?
Allowing the bob weight to move ?
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:14 PM   #907
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I'm assuming that there is still some axial movement ?
Allowing the bob weight to move ?
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For sure, there was still 0.016" end play.

New problem has reared its ugly head. Changed my exhaust this winter on my 78 SE (still OEM stock exhaust), and now my rpm wants to hang up around 1800 to 2000 rpm and not come down. No air leakage around carbs/manifolds, carbs sychronized, ATU bob weights lubed and working freely, throtte cable/butterflys are free no binding.

My old left side exhaust had a big dent in the header from the PO running into a large rock. I think that side had restricted flow. Exhaust on that side is now more free flowing, so thinking it may be too lean. I'm going to try one size larger pilot jet as a trial.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:33 PM   #908
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OK, thank you for that...
And if your memory on the washer changes...let me know.

Ya, I'm a little sad as I have some seepage at the cylinder base gasket on the 81 motor I recently swapped into the 77D. I'll get by with a rag on hand to clean up the slight deposits that tend to pool at the case behind the jugs.

Anybody else do the shimming?
Had look @ both bikes & it was 'White Beast' with the Pamco,
same thing exactly, so after reading some of the preceeding posts, I'll probably have a go @ doing the same as retiredgentleman,

I'm wondering if that's why the pin fell out in January
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:02 PM   #909
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Baza....................you should have a large washer covering the Pamco rotor. The washer keeps the small magnets from falling out.

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Old 05-23-2012, 01:18 AM   #910
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Baza....................you should have a large washer covering the Pamco rotor. The washer keeps the small magnets from falling out.

RG

Well it ain't there, bugger, I've been short changed again!
it wasn't in the kit, I'll chuck a bit more silastic over it!
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:42 AM   #911
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washer

Hey ya, I know of NO large washer with the pamco kit...
Got mine directly from pete as opposed to Mikes XS.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:27 PM   #912
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Hey ya, I know of NO large washer with the pamco kit...
Got mine directly from pete as opposed to Mikes XS.
Got mine from MikesXS, definately no big washer in there, haven't had any dramas since the episode when I wacked the silastic on it.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:28 PM   #913
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Large Pamco washer

Well when the Pamco first started selling the kit, it did not come with a large washer. Some users were having rough running engines, and found that one of the small magnets had vibrated out of the rotor. Pamcopete fixed the problem by supplying a large washer to cover the magnets. Since you don't have one, you could just find one at a local hardware outlet and install it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:59 AM   #914
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Well when the Pamco first started selling the kit, it did not come with a large washer. Some users were having rough running engines, and found that one of the small magnets had vibrated out of the rotor. Pamcopete fixed the problem by supplying a large washer to cover the magnets. Since you don't have one, you could just find one at a local hardware outlet and install it.
Definately worth the effort of getting one to stop that pin problem, though it seems secure now with the silastic on it
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:24 AM   #915
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Well when the Pamco first started selling the kit, it did not come with a large washer. Some users were having rough running engines, and found that one of the small magnets had vibrated out of the rotor. Pamcopete fixed the problem by supplying a large washer to cover the magnets. Since you don't have one, you could just find one at a local hardware outlet and install it.
Yes, good idea...
Care to suppy a photograph of an installed washer?
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