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Old 06-30-2014, 05:23 AM   #1
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Suitable Larger Tank for R80 GS (93)

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I've got the R80GS and am trying to get as much fuel on it as possible. If I find no other options I will resort to fuel bladders and/or mount a load of rotopax. I am aiming to carry close 45L on the bike.



There's a HPN tank for it and I really like more than the heinrichs and the PD because of the nylon fabrication (PD is plastic but also an option). I'm trying to save weight so wouldn't mind avoiding steel.

Here's the HPN:
http://www.hpn.de/deutsch/zubehoer.html


Touratech Version:
http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/2...S-R80GS-R100GS


For those interested in different options/review -> (old) http://www.roadkill.com/~davet/moto/gastank.review.html

Also an older post on here about the same issue:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=417906&page=1
The thread seemed to die away..

The main "issue" I have is redoing the seat to fit the larger tank, repositioning the oil cooler (the kit costs something like 400$...) and trimming the fairings, which is the least of my worries. Apart from the time involved it's pretty expensive.

That's why I am asking, has anyone ever fitted a larger tank to this GS model? I know it's possible, but don't feel like throwing over 1k at it.
I've found large tanks on ebay for about 600$.

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Old 06-30-2014, 06:39 AM   #2
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If you fit the 35 litre GSPD tank, you won't have to modify the seat. Good thing about them also is that they have an about 5 litre capacity glove box.



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Old 06-30-2014, 06:41 AM   #3
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If you fit the 35 litre GSPD tank, you won't have to modify the seat. Good thing about them also is that they have an about 5 litre capacity glove box.



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You also won't have to relocate the oil cooler or lose your "Roo" bars. You will have to trim the fairing or get the PD fairing pieces to go with it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:43 AM   #4
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I have to ask - why ?? 45 litres of fuel is going to make the bike feel like a top heavy tank. You say you want to save weight yet the weight of the fuel alone will be an extra 45 kgs up high on your bike. And your ass is going to be numb before a 45L tank is empty so you'll be probably stopping anyway so why not make it a fuel stop ?
People have done RTW trips with these bikes and normal sized tanks.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:04 AM   #5
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I have to ask - why ?? 45 litres of fuel is going to make the bike feel like a top heavy tank. You say you want to save weight yet the weight of the fuel alone will be an extra 45 kgs up high on your bike. And your ass is going to be numb before a 45L tank is empty so you'll be probably stopping anyway so why not make it a fuel stop ?
People have done RTW trips with these bikes and normal sized tanks.
Because we going through some areas where there will be no fuel for several hundred km including streches of desert.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:04 AM   #6
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You also won't have to relocate the oil cooler or lose your "Roo" bars. You will have to trim the fairing or get the PD fairing pieces to go with it.
even 35L would be nice, but then getting all the PD piece is a whole new story too
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:35 AM   #7
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Would fuel bladders be better then given the work involved in fitting the larger tank ?
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Would fuel bladders be better then given the work involved in fitting the larger tank ?
I'm thinking yes + would be a lot more flexable. Have only done perliminary research on bladders and have not really found anything suitable. Ideal would be two bladders on the sides of the tanks and then just a small 5L can on the back of the bike.

Are you from Ireland?
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:55 AM   #9
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Might just stick two of these on the luggage carriers:
http://justgastanks.com/product_info...oducts_id=1346
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:04 AM   #10
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Might just stick two of these on the luggage carriers:
http://justgastanks.com/product_info...oducts_id=1346
That's a much better idea Just don't fit one to the left hand side of the bike. Plastic containers and exhaust pipes don't mix too well.

As a side issue. the PD forks have slightly longer pre load tubes to the standard GS. It's a good mod to fit them to the standard bikes as it firms everything up nicely.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:20 AM   #11
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Alright.....it's always refreshing to see folks come on here and talk about going on great adventures.

I remember those days. I recall one question I had to a vendor. "so if it breaks in Nambia, can you ship me a new one?" Yeah...never made it to Nambia, YET. But, it's worked well around here so far

So all this discussion about a bigger tank; and also looking at the OPs prior threads about fuel packs, minor maintenance issues, OE luggage value, that he has limited adv riding experience coming from a sport bike, especially this one; http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=989848 does have me thinking

I guess the best word of advice I can give is to simply not spend a load of money on fancy big tanks, and Farkles right now. Ride the bike, learn it's quirks, read here and Horizons Unlimited. Then once you actually have some idea in what is really necessary, then equip the bike. Heck that oil cooler makes ME nervous for overland travel If I had one I would have a spare oil cover to toss it if damaged.

If you do that you will come to learn that you do not want to cross a desert where you need a tank like that. If the bike breaks down and you have to walk out.....you will wish that gas was water. Follow established routes or plan routes that allow for contingencies.
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To be honest the PD tank is perfect for long distance work and the cubby hole in the tank makes the bike, fits most of what you need for the day in (passports, camera etc) and keeps it safe.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:13 AM   #13
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Alright.....it's always refreshing to see folks come on here and talk about going on great adventures.

I remember those days. I recall one question I had to a vendor. "so if it breaks in Nambia, can you ship me a new one?" Yeah...never made it to Nambia, YET. But, it's worked well around here so far

So all this discussion about a bigger tank; and also looking at the OPs prior threads about fuel packs, minor maintenance issues, OE luggage value, that he has limited adv riding experience coming from a sport bike, especially this one; http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=989848 does have me thinking

I guess the best word of advice I can give is to simply not spend a load of money on fancy big tanks, and Farkles right now. Ride the bike, learn it's quirks, read here and Horizons Unlimited. Then once you actually have some idea in what is really necessary, then equip the bike. Heck that oil cooler makes ME nervous for overland travel If I had one I would have a spare oil cover to toss it if damaged.

If you do that you will come to learn that you do not want to cross a desert where you need a tank like that. If the bike breaks down and you have to walk out.....you will wish that gas was water. Follow established routes or plan routes that allow for contingencies.
It's sound advice. Out trip won't leave for a while so I have plenty of time to get the bike and myself ready, I hope. Concerning planning we are going into a lot of detail so that will influence my fuel planning also. I'm not looking to buy something next week, but reading around what the options are. I appreciate all the feedback here. Yes I am know I am new, inexperience and most likely already classed as an idiot by many on the forum, but this is the best way for me to learn and I'm going to keep being an idiot until I learn more. I'm trying and will get better. But thank you very much for all the info so far, I find the forum and it's members great.

So, Water on the exhaust side, fuel on the other :). Also saw the pegpackers option, all something to take into consideration :)
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:23 AM   #14
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Tag make a nice alternative tank. Not cheap though http://www.tag-moto.com/prodotti.asp

Don't worry about any quips or comments it's generally all done in fun. The sites a mine of information.

If you want to see what a standard version of your bike is capable of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmfuQeNauiw and not a big tank in site.

http://tiffanystravels.co.uk/

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Old 06-30-2014, 10:54 AM   #15
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Tag make a nice alternative tank. Not cheap though http://www.tag-moto.com/prodotti.asp

Don't worry about any quips or comments it's generally all done in fun. The sites a mine of information.

If you want to see what a standard version of your bike is capable of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmfuQeNauiw and not a big tank in site.

http://tiffanystravels.co.uk/
Awesome boost in confidence concerning the bike there - very cool indeed. She even has the same colour as me ;)
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