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Old 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM   #1
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brace+stabilizer VS. USD forks

for an xr650L to be a good all around bike, lots of desert, lots of street, occasional woods riding what route is better to take?
an rsw brace an a steering stabilizer OR
crf450r forks

both routes are expensive but what would you prefer and why?
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:26 PM   #2
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I am going with the usd swap. Mostly cause the stiffness of larger forks and strength. In the dez I outrun the forks and while playing around I often bottom out. Plus what's better than an old style thumper with USD forks??
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:32 PM   #3
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I am going with the usd swap. Mostly cause the stiffness of larger forks and strength. In the dez I outrun the forks and while playing around I often bottom out. Plus what's better than an old style thumper with USD forks??

What parts are you using for your conversion?
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:35 AM   #4
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Even though this is a 250 thread, contact Bruce for great info and mods for your XR suspension.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/111...rks-for-xr250/

http://brucessuspension.net/
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Old 02-27-2015, 07:24 AM   #5
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As you decide on the USD route, make sure you adjust for the rake on the 450 clamps. Go with Emig Racing clamps instead of stock 450's. I tried both on my old BRP. It's the same for the L as it is on the R. properly set up 450 forks will also way out perform any stock rear shock. Honda Racing's Type -A shocks are hard to come by, so seek out a CR 500 rear to modify for your conversion. Even after this, your front rake will be changed since the 450 forks are longer.

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Old 02-27-2015, 10:27 AM   #6
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Do you know anything about the rsw triples? do they help with the rake?

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As you decide on the USD route, make sure you adjust for the rake on the 450 clamps. Go with Emig Racing clamps instead of stock 450's. I tried both on my old BRP. It's the same for the L as it is on the R. properly set up 450 forks will also way out perform any stock rear shock. Honda Racing's Type -A shocks are hard to come by, so seek out a CR 500 rear to modify for your conversion. Even after this, your front rake will be changed since the 450 forks are longer.

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Old 02-27-2015, 01:17 PM   #7
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I used a 1995 CR500 and 1996 CR125/250 set for my conversions. I liked the CR500 set best and sold the other set. I am into the CR500 set for under $200 for the entire thing (bars to wheel). The 125/250 was harsh and required more machine work as I used a CR500 stem and a spacer for the top clamp.

My friend has a 1996 XR600 with a damper. The CR500 fork set is handes better at all speeds and does not need a damper. I'll headshake in the desert under full throttle in 4th and 5th driving over rought terrain but it;s tolerable. The stock springs were just about right on for me (155lbs, 6'). I have a stiffer shock spring (progressive, too). My XR feels stable at 75mph in the desert but still tracks straight in rocks in second gear.

The CR500 stem can be turned down to fit the XR bottom bearing; the CR and XR share top bearing size and stem length. Simple conversion. The stops don't line up well but the forks hit my big tank before the stops anyway.

The length of the forks was about equal and the rake is too close to tell the difference.

Best money I've spend on the bike, by far. I did my conversion years ago, CR500 forks have come down in price since then.

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Old 02-27-2015, 01:20 PM   #8
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As you decide on the USD route, make sure you adjust for the rake on the 450 clamps. Go with Emig Racing clamps instead of stock 450's. I tried both on my old BRP. It's the same for the L as it is on the R. properly set up 450 forks will also way out perform any stock rear shock. Honda Racing's Type -A shocks are hard to come by, so seek out a CR 500 rear to modify for your conversion. Even after this, your front rake will be changed since the 450 forks are longer.

This was mine in adventure clothes.
CR500 shocks won't fit on the XR600/650L. Too long, different top and bottom mounts, and wrong spring rates.

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Old 02-27-2015, 07:55 PM   #9
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What parts are you using for your conversion?
04 crf450 triples and stem, 02 cr250r forks and front wheel, all balls steering stem bearings. Not going to machine the stem. Seems super sketchy to me.
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Old 02-28-2015, 12:06 AM   #10
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I haven't used em, but I have admired them on the internet......

Gatos bros makes some fantastic shit. They're an adv vendor too. They have triples for crf fork on xrl.

Take pictures and have fun.
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