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Old 03-25-2011, 08:15 AM   #91
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Decision Time

I turn 57 next week and am in a job that gets worse by the day. As I consider the shortness of life and my degrading health, I am seriously thinking of hitting the road. To tell you the truth, it would probably be good for my health, not to mention my mental health, just because I won't spend everyday in front of this computer. One of my life dreams, maybe the only one, is to spend an entire riding season checking out the North American continent. Don't really have much desire to get south of Mexico as the conditions probably won't suit me. I can continue to put money into my 401(k) while I grow older and less likely to ever take my dream trip or do it, and if I need to get a job when I come back, hope that will happen but be prepared to live sparsely for the rest of my life if it doesn't. I think it might be worth it. What say you?
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Old 03-25-2011, 08:40 AM   #92
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"Visiting the Americas, how to handle time, work, career?" is the title.

You gotta decide for yourself, but generally you can work yourself to death and make money, or start enjoying your life with tons of time and less bucks. I chose the latter and left at 55. Am now collecting retirement checks and S.S. will start in two years.

Ain't rich, but I'm rich in spirit and I don't punch NOBODYs clock. Ain't had this much fun since the 60's. You're gonna die regardless, and you can't take the money with you when you go.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:28 AM   #93
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i'll be 58 in 2 weeks. I have been eligible to retire for over a year but plan to retire at 62. i started my adventures in life early. summer of my junior year incollege, i went to Switzerland and washed dishes in a hotel for 2 months and did a bit of traveling while there. bad economy and such offered me a NAVY career that i started at 22. the navy taught me and trained me, and gave me many an adventure, on of which was my participation in the MISS UNIVERSE PAGENT in 1980. I or (we) escorted the girls across the stage on live TV. Other interesting thing was riding a horse across the desert to the pyramids, snow skii'ng in Sicili, camping out in Alaska in zero degrees...those are just a few of the mmemories the navy left with me in addition to the many ports i visited. even though i did not do 20 in the navy, i did stay in the reserves for the required time and i will start my retirement in a couple more years. But i did pay a priice as we all do..there are no free rides! i'm just hoping my health will hold out until 62 so i can take that really long trip i'm planning on my bike. I take two trips a year now on the bike of 10 days each by myself and another trip where the wife and i load the bike on the trailer and go camping for a week. my only regret is that my wife will not be taking my long trip with me.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:37 PM   #94
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I'm 28, and about 2 years ago, I quit my corporate job for a much less secure one, that made me not feeling like I was selling my soul.

So far it's worked out. No, I don't have medical insurance any more, and my paycheck is less steady.

But I also don't have to get up at 6:30, and shower and shave, put on a shirt and tie, and get bossed around by rich people.

I haven't taken a big trip yet, but I COULD. :)
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:59 PM   #95
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I'm 28, and about 2 years ago, I quit my corporate job for a much less secure one, that made me not feeling like I was selling my soul.

So far it's worked out. No, I don't have medical insurance any more, and my paycheck is less steady.

But I also don't have to get up at 6:30, and shower and shave, put on a shirt and tie, and get bossed around by rich people.

I haven't taken a big trip yet, but I COULD. :)
I guess there's only one question then...when do you leave?

Get gone!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:50 PM   #96
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This has been a very interesting thread for me, and I really appreciate all that folks have had to say so far. I'm 24 right now, and working a job that is so boring, it pains me to get on with it each day. I moved clear across Canada for this job, to a city with no soul, and a place where I don't know anybody. I am as ready for a change as a person could ever be, to be honest.

The only thing that is holding me back is money; I'm not really concerned about what a big trip would do to my career and I don't have any personal relationships that are going to suffer from a long stint on the road. I desperately want to hit the road, but I want to do it the proper way. To me, it's not worth it to go for two weeks, two month, or even two years. My dream is to travel clear across the globe. The trip would be of indefinite length, only limited by the time it would take me to get to every country in the world.

I'd love to hear some tips on how people have made long term trips work. I'm not above pausing the trip for periods to make a bit of cash to keep going. I'm also very interested in becoming some type of travel writer to help keep the gas money coming. I'd love to hear from people who have done something similar, and find out how they made the money situation work. What sort of budgeting strategies did you use to get started? And then, if you found a way to have the travel pay for its self, how did you go about that?

It's my dream, and I realize it might even be a bit "pie in the sky", but I'm serious about pursuing it and would love to hear from those who've chased after something simliar.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:40 AM   #97
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Putting it together

This thread hits home for us 'cause we're all cowboys at heart. I'm 56 and putting things in place for similar reasons. How I pay for it??? First I have two rentals bringing in 1400 a month clear, I worked 25 years to acheive that. My ex is got the others and is trying for these. So no guarantees- I could still lose it all. I decided to start living in a rv as a base camp. 1 year now or two? I have no retirement, wasn't offered at work, and ex appropiated all our savings, again years of work with no reward. I did get about 40% of assets so I do have value there. Start traveling now?? Big yes in my boat! How do I pay for health insurance?? the major unknown, I can always get a low-end short time job to supplement rental income. But not health care. At this point I looking at being non-insured till Obama catches me!
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:53 PM   #98
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Here's one way to do it, so let me ask you all. There's a guy who's been riding the world and posting pics and stories about his experience here on this site. He's been on the road with his SO for a very very long time and had run out of money. So he asked for money from those who were following his thread in order to extend his several year vacation.

I posted my opinion that if he had run out of money, maybe it would be best to earn some more money before extending his vacation any further. Imo it's a bit low class to ask for money just so you can extend your adventure. For posting my opinion I got banned for a while. I wasn't trying to start anything but I get tired of people trying to suck off of others so they don't have to work.

So how do you all feel about those asking for money on this site for nothing but personal gain?
Since nobody else has addressed this question - I'll take a stab at it.

First, the couple had a decision to make - either go home since their money was running out, or continue the trip to someplace new if there was sufficient support from "out there" to enable them to continue providing their audience with the fabulous pictures and writing that they've become known for.

As someone who's been following their trip, and greatly enjoyed the perspective it gave me, I was more than happy to send them a couple tank-fuls of money to keep them on the road writing up their reports and sharing pictures of where they've been. This enabled me to see and 'experience' places that chances are I'll never get to. And there was enough support from other people that they were able to continue doing what we've been enjoying for so long.

Second - anyone that says taking and posting pics and reports is 'not work' has never tried to doing it before. It takes a lot of time to take and process pictures, write up the accompanying text, and then potentially fight with an erratic internet connection to get it out to the rest of the world.

I've done the trips, taken the pics, and written the reports - I figure for every 3 days of travel I have to spend a full day processing what I'd seen & experienced, putting it all together, and posting it. I've read from other LD riders that sometimes they'll lock themselves into a room for days at a time in order to catch up with their material and get their reports up to date.

You may be interested to read that that's what "travel writer"s do - it's a legit occupation that people can get paid to do. Do they get something out of it? Certainly - just like any other person who trades labor for income. Is it "nothing but personal gain"? No more than any other trade of information for income - they're getting paid for doing something they enjoy - and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 04-02-2011, 02:31 PM   #99
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- and there's nothing wrong with that.
Well said.



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For posting my opinion I got banned for a while.
Was your opinion asked for?
In Ride Reports, It's about someone's ride. Unless the author asks for an opinion, it's not needed or wanted.
Donate and continue reading or don't - it's really that simple.

And yes, you should have been banned if you posted your unsolicited opinion in a ride report.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:48 AM   #100
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I had to chime in after reading all the posts.

I've been very lucky to have travel in my vocabulary since 7 yo. I chose to take off the last 4 years to take care of my ailing dad, which I would do again in a heartbeat!!! He has since passed, not mentioning this for sympathy, just fact. I haven't traveled during that time and boy am I jones'ing for travel again, Big Time!!

Both parents traveled, and introduced me into the family before they adopted me at age 9. I have had the luxury to live with traveling as part of who I am since about as long as I can remember. Sometimes short excursions, sometimes longer ones. My motto has always been to work to be able to travel. Which to be honest, has yielded only three jobs that has lasted over 1 year, the longest being 1y 9m. If memory serves me correctly, I think I've been on holiday for longer than I've worked in my life. I'm nearly 40 now, lol, have to laugh at that, especially when I hear one of my friends gripe about not having time to do the things they like. It's all about choices!!

I have no significant other, I've been in school off and on now, but now I'm not happy with it, but will, in the future go back to. I have traveled internationally and every time have been able to rent bikes. I feel it's time to change that and ride to where I want. I have money for at least 4-8 months south of us, but am seriously contemplating selling the whole lot for the dream of dreams, at least for me, an RTW trip. The thought of living on some property in a yurt, when I come back, is extremely enticing to me. My departure date is scheduled for 1st May 2011, but may have to come back end of summer to sell the house, etc... I've never been the traditionalist, so it suites me well, and I came across a quote not long ago that sums up a newer attitude and thought process with me:

"He who is richer is Not who has more. But who needs less."
Zapotec saying; Oaxaca, Mexico

So, in short, keep tuned in for another ride report. I just hope I can give it justice. I have much to learn about posting up and photo/video logs. Might have a dedicated blog or website, still up in the air about that though. Any advice is appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:31 PM   #101
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Funny, I signed on to the forum tonight for the first time in a long time tonight to start a similar thread. I'm 26 (best years behind me, of course), and am three weeks into my first corporate job in since I was 21. I landed a pretty "good" desk job at 19 and did that for two years, before deciding to quit and travel on my savings. Went to SE Asia for a few months alone, and it certainly changed my life. Spent the next 5 years going to school, working on fishing boats in AK during the summer, and doing plenty of traveling in between. The day I graduated I left CO on a ninja 250 for Alaska
Anyway, I've finally taken the plunge back into the real world. I've definitely got nothing to complain about, but my mind is already thinking to how I might be able to duck out in a couple years for a long bike trip. It doesn't help that tomorrow I'm picking up the V-strom I just bought...

I say just quit your damn job while you're still single and not responsible for anyone else. Save up and quit and just go do it. Jobs, of one sort or another will be waiting. If you want the adventure, gotta take the risk...

Hopefully I can take my own advice when the time comes.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:49 PM   #102
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15 years ago on my last long (1 month) adventure I met an older German rider in a campground in Dawson City, and ended up riding with him to Inuvik. Years later, he stayed with me at my place in Seattle. Later than that I stayed with him at his place in Germany. He worked in a factory making plumbing fixtures, and saved his money to take month long trips every few years. One of those nights around the campfire he confided in me this:

"To travel by motorcycle there are 3 things- youth, time, and money. You only get 2. Pick wisely."

I'm remembering why I took that trip so long ago, and the phrase "you're gonna be dead a long time" bubbles to the top more and more these days.

I say do it. Nobody ever wishes they'd spent more time in a cubicle on their death bed.
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Old 04-09-2011, 03:49 AM   #103
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"To travel by motorcycle there are 3 things- youth, time, and money. You only get 2. Pick wisely."
Sig line stuff right there.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:45 AM   #104
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To the OP, what about a government job?
Government jobs over here, although who knows about the future, are very secure jobs with plenty of time off not really a problem. I'm outside NYC and toyed with it for a while but ultimately decided to try and find something I love to do, not just go to work.

Anyway, take my mother for instance, court clerk in small claims court. Makes a fair living, gets one month vacation a year, plus like 10-15 sick days, plus she has the ability to take leaves of absences for up to one year AND STILL KEEP HER JOB, albeit it may be in a different less convenient location when she decides to return. She's not a traveler but she could if my father had a job.

Her insurance is great through the union. Plus, if she has a certain amount of unused sick time when she retires it gets converted into health insurance for retirement! Plus pension after 20 years, if she was single she would be set.

And excuse the 'Merican ignance but isn't it even better over there, at least in gov't jobs?
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:47 PM   #105
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For me, the answer has been the right job, and making a lot of sacrifices;

I work a seasonal specialized construction job. For 6-8 months of the year, the company owns my ass. I go where they want when they want. I work a full years worth of hours in that time. I make only a modest wage, but the overtime is gravy. They also provide me with a company truck, phone, housing and an allowance. I also use my personal credit card for company reimbursed expenses and get 2% back. I worked very hard at my job to get where I am and earn these perks, and I very much enjoy what I do.

I also am very diligent about saving money. Every paycheck gets the majority transferred into a savings account that is not touched until work is done.

I do not own a house, make any payments or carry any sort of debt on anything. I don't smoke, drink little, and am careful about what I do spend my money on. I am also single, as are most of my co-workers that have the same job as me. For some reason, being away from home for months at a time and having a job as a priority doesn't seem to jive well with the significant other.

The trade off is getting every winter off and not needing to work financially. My friends think I have the best thing going, but I can assure you it is not all sunshine and lollipops. Everything I own is in a storage container and I don't really have a place I call home.

I have done this now for the last 6 years, spending 5 of them traveling outside the country in my time off. I think you can travel in a modest and comfortable way and spend less than you would staying at home.

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Government jobs over here, although who knows about the future, are very secure jobs with plenty of time off not really a problem. I'm outside NYC and toyed with it for a while but ultimately decided to try and find something I love to do, not just go to work.
My sister and her husband both work for the foreign service. Traveling at the taxpayers expense is pretty nice, but they have 3 university degrees each and are very hard workers. They are currently on a 4 year posting in Tokyo, living in a very nice house. Having 2 kids and the recent events in Japan, the last month has been rather hellish to say the least for them.
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