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Old 11-16-2014, 10:48 AM   #1
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does your bike run better after an oil change

does your bike run better after an oil change or after washing it?
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:08 AM   #2
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With the 75 Honda CB550 it does after an oil change.

The key indicator it is time for an oil change is you can't find Neutral and you get false shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Change it out and it shifts like new again. Mind you, this is a bike where the change interval is 1500 miles and new filter every 3000.

I found the same to be true of the F700 as well, the shifting seemed much crisper after the first real oil change. See if that holds true going forward.
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:23 AM   #3
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My motorcycle and I are not big on personal hygiene so a bath -- infrequent as they are -- doesn't impress him, but he appreciates new oil and always rewards me with an extra turn of speed and crisper shifts afterward.
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:21 PM   #4
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It certainly shifts better after an oil change.. what is a wash?
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:04 PM   #5
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It certainly shifts better after an oil change.. what is a wash?
When you change the oil and it does not matter one way or the other.. it is a wash.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:37 PM   #6
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No. But I caught it smiling after a bath and oil change once, or maybe that was just me.

As mentioned above; ocassionally I'll notice a bit smoother shifting after an oil change if I've been absuing the clutch. That's about it.
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:39 PM   #7
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When you change the oil and it does not matter one way or the other.. it is a wash.
Bwahahahaha I see what you did there.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:34 PM   #8
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My old Suzuki M50 Boulevard shifted a lot better after the oil change, though my prev owner had 20W-50 in there for some madcap reason, 10W40 was the right stuff IIRC. He also put some stiff oil in the gear unit- proper weight lube in there helped a lot also.

The Bandit doesn't seem to care one way or the other but my prev owner (I think) never changed the oil filter so it was pretty well packed off at 30k miles when I got the bike. I got the old one off (had to stab it with a screwdriver as a lever- very stuck), the engine ran cooler afterwards but I'm not sure why... perhaps increased circulation?
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:04 PM   #9
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My GSW definitely has a nicer feel shifting. I don't think I am a fan of the BMW specified 5w-40 Castrol. (That's a whole other thread.) Shifting quality degrades noticeably at the 1300-1500 miles after the oil change. It goes from "good" with no qualifications to "good if you do it right".

I have noticed this on other bikes too but usually the noticeable degradation occurs about 500mi before the oil change is due not 1500miles after the oil change.

I have a hard time letting oil go more than 4k-5k in a bike FWIW.

Finally, a wash is good for an extra 10hp on the top-end without a doubt.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:10 PM   #10
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After an oil change….

I like to imagine that it goes better, but can't say for real. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't.

Maybe it's just because that's when the other general maintenance gets done.

After a wash…..

Yeah, it went a lot better after the last soapy wash. That was when the engine was overhauled last month….. A 1997 model, I've had it for over 10 years, and it's done nearly 230,000 km.

Yeah, it goes a lot better when the road dries after rain.

Dunno any more than that coz rain's all the washing it normally ever gets.
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:25 AM   #11
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It certainly shifts better after an oil change.. what is a wash?
What is an earl change?
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:22 PM   #12
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Placebo effect unless you wait so long for an oil change that the gunk actually affects your engine efficiency. If the latter is true, change your oil more often!
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:21 AM   #13
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Placebo effect unless you wait so long for an oil change that the gunk actually affects your engine efficiency. If the latter is true, change your oil more often!
Agree. If the oil is so degraded that you can truly feel its lower lubrication quality through the relative simple gear shift mechanism, imaging what impact this degraded oil would be having on critical internal components operating under extreme temperature, speed, and pressure.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:55 AM   #14
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Agree. If the oil is so degraded that you can truly feel its lower lubrication quality through the relative simple gear shift mechanism, imaging what impact this degraded oil would be having on critical internal components operating under extreme temperature, speed, and pressure.
You just don't know what you are talking about.

Older bikes in particular can be very picky about oil and oil changes. Different brands of the same weight can make bikes shift differently.

My CB550 likes Delron 400LE the best, and Shell Rotella the second best. I use the Rotella because it seeps less than the Delron.

It is part of that charm of old bikes, you have to know them personally to get the best out of them.
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:41 PM   #15
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You just don't know what you are talking about.



Older bikes in particular can be very picky about oil and oil changes. Different brands of the same weight can make bikes shift differently.



My CB550 likes Delron 400LE the best, and Shell Rotella the second best. I use the Rotella because it seeps less than the Delron.



It is part of that charm of old bikes, you have to know them personally to get the best out of them.

Yes all my vintage Hondas tell me when they need an oil change, my 550 especially gets a gear box of false neutrals and the real neutral disappears! ;) Actually, I run Rotella in everything except my Duck and my GS.

Even my Hemi Ram gets noisy and picks up the "Hemi Tick" near the end of an OCI, after I change it out it's all back to normal.
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