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Old 02-01-2011, 08:43 AM   #16
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Think artillery with tracks for mobility, not tank.

That's not really correct. There is very little elevation available on a tank buster. An artillery piece would lob shells into the kill zone. These were made to be placed behind berms and destroy tanks that would come into their kill zone.

I know jack shit about armor (hate it actually) but i do watch the history channel.....well until the snowpocalypse kills the power that is.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:44 AM   #17
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Nice.


Nice models, BTW. What are you going to use them for?
It's just a hobby of mine. I've always loved WWII tanks and aircraft. I built hundreds of scale models of them as a kid. With professional 3-D software like Solidworks 2010, I can make much more detailed full scale representations:





Eventually I plan to creat photo-realistic renderings using Modo 501 (once I figure out how to use the software).

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Old 02-01-2011, 10:21 AM   #18
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Photo-Realistic Rendering

Please post a pic once you have it done.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:31 AM   #19
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:33 AM   #20
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Please post a pic once you have it done.
I will if I ever figure out how to use the damned program.

Have a look here to see what Modo 501 is capable of:

http://www.luxology.com/modo/tour/rendering.aspx
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:59 AM   #21
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Not artillery. It was a tank that was specially designed for killing other tanks.
Hm, for the Germans it has been a mixture of both. First these Vehicles were constructed as a support tank for the infantry( StuG III) with a short barreled 75mm Gun. As the enemy became stronger and stronger, they got longer Guns because of larger aiming accuracy and larger projectile speed. When they found out that they were more succesfull than normal tanks, their production ratio increased. During WWII german Engineers made a Hunting Version of almost every tank they had (Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, Jagdpanzer IV, etc.). They were chaeper, easier to produce and almost more effctive because of their lower silhouette and the fact that they were on the retreat most of the time. To hide was their greatest advantage against an attacking enemy.
Parallel to the Hunting tanks Assault Guns have been built, such as the German StuH 42, Sturmhaubitze, (Assault Howitzer) with a 10,5cm Gun in the same Hull.

The Prdoction of such Hunters ended almost in the early 70´s, as the German Army (Bundeswehr) took the last Jagdpanzer´s out of duty.

Aaaah, didn´t wanna talk that much, but it has been a hobby of mine too...
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:04 AM   #22
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Most of the (first ever tanks used in battle) WW1 tanks didn't have turrets (in the traditional sense) either, British MK1 and German A series - so I really don't think you can't call it a tank simply because it doesn't have a turret.

Yep, it's a tank.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:06 AM   #23
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I know you don't see many working "tanks" near these....





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Old 02-01-2011, 11:16 AM   #24
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I know you do't see many working "tanks" near these....





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Strange... i´ve never seen a A10 near him:
http://panzerbär.de/types/bw_flakpz_2_gepard-a.htm

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Old 02-01-2011, 11:20 AM   #25
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Strange... i´ve never seen a A10 near him:
http://panzerbär.de/types/bw_flakpz_2_gepard-a.htm

An A10 would turn that panzer into sauerbraten before it's crew knew what was happening.....
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:28 AM   #26
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An A10 would turn that panzer into sauerbraten before it's crew knew what was happening.....
Maybe... but before that the "Sauerbraten" would offer him some hundred of his "raisins".... hehehe
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:52 PM   #27
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Direct fire weapon is a tank while an indirect fire weapon is a self-propelled artillery piece.

The Swedish built a turretless tank in the late '60's, the Stridsvagn 103.

Here's the Wiki poop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridsvagn_103
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:07 PM   #28
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Maybe... but before that the "Sauerbraten" would offer him some hundred of his "raisins".... hehehe
That's why the A-10 has air to ground missiles.
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:12 PM   #29
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I think it goes like this:

Tank destroyer is to tank as battle cruiser is to battleship, i.e., similar (or even better) armament, but less armor, making the tank destroyer cheaper, easier to manufacturer/transport, more maneuverable and faster, but more vulnerable in the event of a hit.

Some tank destroyers do have turrets.
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:15 PM   #30
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Direct fire weapon is a tank while an indirect fire weapon is a self-propelled artillery piece.

The Swedish built a turretless tank in the late '60's, the Stridsvagn 103.

Here's the Wiki poop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridsvagn_103
So you're saying the original machine first used by the Brits in the Great War which the was named "Tank" - the British MK1 and German A series which didn't have turrets (traditional sense for the MK) are not considered tanks?
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