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Old 02-02-2011, 05:20 AM   #46
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I've always had a soft spot for the old Mark IV.

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Old 02-02-2011, 05:22 AM   #47
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Can you ID this tank thread?
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:46 AM   #48
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the male or female?
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:01 AM   #49
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the male or female?
They come in both sexes?
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:01 AM   #50
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I'm not sure what you mean.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:05 AM   #51
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I'm not sure what you mean.
Like the "Can you ID this fighter jet?" thread.

But with tanks!!!!
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:07 AM   #52
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I'm not sure what you mean.
I think it's a reference to the ID this fighter thread.

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Old 02-02-2011, 06:11 AM   #53
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Like the "Can you ID this fighter jet?" thread.

But with tanks!!!!
Is there a way to simply change the thread title? Never had to do it before.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:24 AM   #55
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Great thread! The armor of WW2 has always intrigued me.

Cannon fodder for the Russians:
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German "Elefant" (Ferdinand)
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The two Porsche air cooled engines in each vehicle were replaced by two 300 hp Maybach HL 120 TRM engines powering two generators that drove two electric motors which in turn powered the drive sprockets. The electric motors also acted as the vehicle's steering unit. This so called "petro-electrical" drive delivered 0.11 km/l off road and 0.15 km/l on road at a maximum speed of 10 km/h off road and 30 km/h on road. Besides the high fuel consumption and the poor performance the drive system was also maintenance-intensive; the sprockets for example had to be changed every 500 km.
Guess who is looking at hybrid combat vehicles now? Hint: We are. Any records on what happened when damage shorted the power supply to the body?
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:49 AM   #56
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They come in both sexes?
They did actually - in those days they were called male or female depending on their armament/weight/size.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:11 AM   #58
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They did actually - in those days they were called male or female depending on their armament/weight/size.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_IV_tank
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:22 AM   #59
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Great thread! The armor of WW2 has always intrigued me.

Cannon fodder for the Russians:
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German "Elefant" (Ferdinand)
some info:
The two Porsche air cooled engines in each vehicle were replaced by two 300 hp Maybach HL 120 TRM engines powering two generators that drove two electric motors which in turn powered the drive sprockets. The electric motors also acted as the vehicle's steering unit. This so called "petro-electrical" drive delivered 0.11 km/l off road and 0.15 km/l on road at a maximum speed of 10 km/h off road and 30 km/h on road. Besides the high fuel consumption and the poor performance the drive system was also maintenance-intensive; the sprockets for example had to be changed every 500 km.
The "Cannon Fodder" destroyed 320 Russian Tanks at a loss of 13 on the first Day of the ""Battle of Kursk". They were only stopped by Russian Artillery and Infantry when they had no Infantry support by Germans...
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:45 AM   #60
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All but two of the 91 available Ferdinands were put to use in the Battle of Kursk, the first combat the Ferdinand saw. Although they destroyed many Russian tanks, they performed quite poorly in other respects. Within the first four days nearly half of the vehicles were out of service, mostly due to technical problems and mine damage to tracks and suspensions. Actual combat losses to direct Soviet action were very low as the Ferdinand's very thick armor protected it from almost all Soviet antitank weaponry. However, at this point in its development the Ferdinand lacked a machine gun or any secondary armament, making it vulnerable to attack by infantry. Most total losses of the Ferdinand occurred during the Soviet counter-offensive after the Kursk offensive, many damaged Ferdinands had to be abandoned as they were too heavy to tow and others were lost to mechanical breakdown during the retreat.
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