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Old 10-02-2012, 10:04 AM   #2431
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Back to the future?

From Strom's post of the guts of the press pack, here:

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An additional coded plug enables the rider to access the "Enduro Pro" mode for more ambitious off-road riding. This setting provides significantly increased bottom-out reserves. In this mode - reserved solely for off-road use with knobby tyres - experienced motorcyclists can deliberately make the rear wheel of the R 1200 GS break out due to ASC intervention adjusted to very experienced off-road use. The ABS characteristics are specially adapted to this type of sporty use since control is specifically geared towards riding on loose surfaces with studded tyres. What is more, ABS does not act on the rear wheel when the rear brake is applied. Deactivation of the part integral function means that the front and wheel brake operate entirely separately from one another, in keeping with the preferences of an experienced off road rider, also allowing so-called initial brake drift before hairpin bends.

And when the coded plug is used, the individual Dynamic ESA setting is preserved over a change of riding mode. Without the coded plug all settings are set to default, e.g. when turning off the ignition. ABS and ASC can be manually disengaged by the rider in all modes. With the coded plug inserted, the systems remain deactivated when restarting the bike after having turned off the ignition before.
Emphasis added. Unfortunately, it appears you have to pony up for the Dynamic ESA option, with computer controlled dampers, in order to get this.

Imagine ... the front and [rear] wheel brake operate entirely separately from one another!!!!

In other news:

Same wheelbase, two-inch longer swingarm.

Full slipper clutch.

The ride-by-wire automatically keeps the throttles in sync between services.

Steeper steering head.

Narrower seat-tank junction.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:05 AM   #2432
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Isn't it about the same as the current GS is rated?

Fuel consumption per 100 km at constant 90 km/h 57 mpg at a constant 56 mph (4.1 l)
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:07 AM   #2433
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Stylistically everything in front of the logo is going to take some getting used to or require modification. Everything in back of the logo looks pretty good. I like the new tank treatment and the seat looks narrower at the front for us shorties. The tech looks pretty good too but the slipper clutch can be a mixed bag in off-road riding. I'm sure there's more power in the motor and BMW usually is pretty conservative with their power figures anyway. Asphaltandrubber.com lists the weight at 525# without fuel. But the BMW press release states 238kg ready to ride. So it gained about 20#. I 'd suspect most of that is the clutch relocation and drive transfer.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #2434
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:14 AM   #2435
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Well it's ugly, but I'll take one. There goes my 1000 dollar Russell day long. I lined it up axel nut to axel nut and triple tree To triple tree crudely on Photoshop and the seat looks to be a good 2 inches shorter than a gs low seat on the old model
Do we know that the fitment is actually different?
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:20 AM   #2436
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Specs look good but the bike not so much. The new KTM 1190 is looking better.


I currently own an '02 1150GS and an '08 990Adv. The KTM wears knobbies and the GS wears dual sports. I'm thinking I could consolidate both bikes into the new 1190. The wings on the new GS are not attractive IMHO.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:23 AM   #2437
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Here is a link to 61 High Res ghost images of the new water cooled boxer

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...00gs/?gal=1#/0
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #2438
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I currently own an '02 1150GS and an '08 990Adv. The KTM wears knobbies and the GS wears dual sports. I'm thinking I could consolidate both bikes into the new 1190. The wings on the new GS are not attractive IMHO.

Yup, The 1190 looks like it will be a winner. I think I would lean towards it over the GS in regular ADV spec with 17" wheels and 150hp!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:28 AM   #2439
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Pretty sure if you put a set of HD lights under the beak like everyone does you would be projecting this into the night sky.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:31 AM   #2440
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So, More 15 HP, 4 kg heavier, oil lubricated clutch (?), smaller Alternator, smaller battery, wider tires, ABS Std., plus liquid cooled,, oh and plus spork (good prior post ref.Sjsharkfan) nose .

So, we now need a new Oilhead Boxer Sub Group "Spork Nose"

That right hand side exhaust looks like a game changer for all the after market panniers. Back to the drawing board..... Although it does look tucked in. maybe can go with two large panniers now.

I like the way it looks, more insect like!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:34 AM   #2441
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What the HELL am I supposed to do with my right hand now!!!


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Old 10-02-2012, 10:40 AM   #2442
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The wings on the new GS are not attractive IMHO.
Wait till a good cow, rock, or rock wall encounter and we'll see how crash worthy this bike is. I've seen plenty of crash marks on upper crash bars and for some reason this bike looks like it's not very crash worth due to those wings and radiators. It would only take one good radiator hit on those wings to knock it out of commission......hope it's not the case.

Not sure why but I really wanted to like this bike, maybe I will later but for now I'm not lov'ing it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:47 AM   #2443
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Handguards???

I guess the German spelling of HANDGUARDS is now G-L-O-V-E-S???

Vat vil ve do visout those handguards?
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #2444
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Wait till a good cow, rock, or rock wall encounter and we'll see how crash worthy this bike is. I've seen plenty of crash marks on upper crash bars and for some reason this bike looks like it's not very crash worth due to those wings and radiators. It would only take one good radiator hit on those wings to knock it out of commission......hope it's not the case.

Not sure why but I really wanted to like this bike, maybe I will later but for now I'm not lov'ing it.
I'm sure there will be a hardcore off-road accessory to help guard it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #2445
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Yes, the clutch now lives under the front cover!

The oil filter is on the left side. No more pulling a skid plate to get it.

No mention of being able to turn off the ABS.
For enduro purists.
The equipment variant “Offroad”.

This package was compiled specifically for those who want to enjoy their R 1200 GS pure, but do not intend to ignore those practical extras. The daytime running light presents a clear advantage for visual appeal and safety, and ASC and disengageable ABS provide adequate traction particularly on loose surfaces. The equipment variant “Offroad” at a glance:

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