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Old 10-03-2012, 11:23 AM   #2671
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Heat being dumped onto the riders legs?

So, with no little "wings" to redirect the air coming through the radiators, won't there be a bunch of hot air getting dumped right onto the rider's legs?



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Old 10-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #2672
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The top-case can be used (i think), but since the exhaust have changed side, the sideboxes not.
Hope so, but looks like the top case mounts directly on the factory rack now with no mounting plate, so I'm guessing the old case may not fit.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:29 AM   #2673
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Has anyone noticed if the 13 is a single plug head?

& how did they manage to get the overall engine width narrower?
Yes it's single plug, smaller crank and bearings but probably mostly down to there being less stuff under the valve covers.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #2674
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At-home valve adjusts????

Will this require draining the coolant? I can't tell from the pics (thanks for those RL! VERY helpful! ) if the coolant path passes into the valve cover or not.



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Old 10-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #2675
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So, with no little "wings" to redirect the air coming through the radiators, won't there be a bunch of hot air getting dumped right onto the rider's legs?
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look closer where the air inlets are
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #2676
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No coolant path in the valve covers, so draining will not be requir3ed to check adjust valves.

Bad thing is when water pump leaks, coolant goes in the oil.

Notice how one head is driven directly from crankshaft but the other is driven from the balance shaft. Less accurate cam timing on one cylinder than the other.

Over all, looks very good, but not perfect.

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:42 AM   #2677
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Will this require draining the coolant?

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Zoom in on this one. The head gasket retains the coolant. Valve adjustment is separate.

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:49 AM   #2678
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The BMW USA website shows a 9 pound (not kg) difference in wet weight between the waterhead and camhead...there was a previous post on this with the actual numbers.
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Poids à vide en ordre de marche, réservoir plein 1)229 kg


So, 9 kg = 19,84 lbs

I would prefer 9 lbs than 9 kg but.....
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:17 PM   #2679
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look closer where the air inlets are
Ah....OK. It's more obvious in this pic.



There's a piece of plastic behind the radiator that redirects the air to the sides vs. allowing it to come straight back.

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Old 10-03-2012, 12:26 PM   #2680
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BMW Motorrad Germany : Ready to ride
Leergewicht fahrfertig, vollgetankt 1) 238 kg










  • 1) Gemäß Richtlinie 93/93/EWG mit allen Betriebsmitteln, betankt mit mindest. 90% des nutzbaren Tankvolumens
R1200GS DOHC Ready to ride BMW Belgium

Poids à vide en ordre de marche, réservoir plein 1)229 kg


So, 9 kg = 19,84 lbs

I would prefer 9 lbs than 9 kg but.....
Per the BMW USA website comparing new GS to previous model (4kg difference = 9 pounds):

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Old 10-03-2012, 12:31 PM   #2681
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It works for me assuming the alternator is reliable. Looks like it is permenant magnet so no brushes to wear out. It will have a separate external diode pack so the only thing left to break are bearings if there are any and they could be oil fed from the box. Clutch on the other hand is a consumable part so will at some point need replaced which is a real pain on the current bike.
What I haven't seen anywhere is the starter motor. The only stuff I have seen mentioning it is the blurb about how the exhaust valves have auto decompressors making the engine easier to start so a smaller starter is needed. It will be there somewhere just I haven't spotted it.
Look at any shot of the right side of the bike. The starter motor is black and is easily seen just aft and below the rear-most valve cover bolt head.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:36 PM   #2682
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Wow. Dramatically different than I thought it would be.

Wet clutch in the FRONT of the engine? Gear driven alternator in the rear?
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:41 PM   #2683
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And I really don't give a rats ass how the bike looks,
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Sure you do. We ALL do. That's why nobody but JVB bought an ST.

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Old 10-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #2684
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Except the title should be "2014 R1200GS ....."

2013's are already in production with the 2012 build spec's and it'll be May '13 before these hit the USA shores is my bet, which means 2014 model year designation.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:47 PM   #2685
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Sure you do. We ALL do. That's why nobody but JVB bought an ST.


Awww come on... JVB's ST has a good excuse for its ummm looks... it was totaled when he bought it
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