The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest - Page 179

Sock Monkey · 10-03-2012, 11:23 AM

So, with no little "wings" to redirect the air coming through the radiators, won't there be a bunch of hot air getting dumped right onto the rider's legs?

-SM

EJ_92606 · 10-03-2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dykkeren

The top-case can be used (i think), but since the exhaust have changed side, the sideboxes not.

Hope so, but looks like the top case mounts directly on the factory rack now with no mounting plate, so I'm guessing the old case may not fit.

Marki_GSA · 10-03-2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grpweld

Has anyone noticed if the 13 is a single plug head?

& how did they manage to get the overall engine width narrower?

Yes it's single plug, smaller crank and bearings but probably mostly down to there being less stuff under the valve covers.

Sock Monkey · 10-03-2012, 11:30 AM

Will this require draining the coolant? I can't tell from the pics (thanks for those RL! VERY helpful!

) if the coolant path passes into the valve cover or not.

-SM

yellowbirdrs · 10-03-2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sock Monkey

So, with no little "wings" to redirect the air coming through the radiators, won't there be a bunch of hot air getting dumped right onto the rider's legs?

-SM

look closer where the air inlets are

ragtoplvr · 10-03-2012, 11:41 AM

No coolant path in the valve covers, so draining will not be requir3ed to check adjust valves.

Bad thing is when water pump leaks, coolant goes in the oil.

Notice how one head is driven directly from crankshaft but the other is driven from the balance shaft. Less accurate cam timing on one cylinder than the other.

Over all, looks very good, but not perfect.

Rod

RL Lemke · 10-03-2012, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sock Monkey

Will this require draining the coolant?

-SM

Zoom in on this one. The head gasket retains the coolant. Valve adjustment is separate.

GSMarc · 10-03-2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJ_92606

The BMW USA website shows a 9 pound (not kg) difference in wet weight between the waterhead and camhead...there was a previous post on this with the actual numbers.

BMW Motorrad Germany : Ready to ride

Leergewicht fahrfertig, vollgetankt ¹⁾	238 kg

¹⁾ Gemäß Richtlinie 93/93/EWG mit allen Betriebsmitteln, betankt mit mindest. 90% des nutzbaren Tankvolumens

R1200GS DOHC Ready to ride BMW Belgium

Poids à vide en ordre de marche, réservoir plein ¹⁾	229 kg

So, 9 kg = 19,84 lbs

I would prefer 9 lbs than 9 kg but.....

Sock Monkey · 10-03-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowbirdrs

look closer where the air inlets are

Ah....OK. It's more obvious in this pic.

There's a piece of plastic behind the radiator that redirects the air to the sides vs. allowing it to come straight back.

-SM

EJ_92606 · 10-03-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMarc

BMW Motorrad Germany : Ready to ride

Leergewicht fahrfertig, vollgetankt ¹⁾	238 kg

¹⁾ Gemäß Richtlinie 93/93/EWG mit allen Betriebsmitteln, betankt mit mindest. 90% des nutzbaren Tankvolumens

R1200GS DOHC Ready to ride BMW Belgium

Poids à vide en ordre de marche, réservoir plein ¹⁾	229 kg

So, 9 kg = 19,84 lbs

I would prefer 9 lbs than 9 kg but.....

Per the BMW USA website comparing new GS to previous model (4kg difference = 9 pounds):

Emoto · 10-03-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marki_GSA

It works for me assuming the alternator is reliable. Looks like it is permenant magnet so no brushes to wear out. It will have a separate external diode pack so the only thing left to break are bearings if there are any and they could be oil fed from the box. Clutch on the other hand is a consumable part so will at some point need replaced which is a real pain on the current bike.
What I haven't seen anywhere is the starter motor. The only stuff I have seen mentioning it is the blurb about how the exhaust valves have auto decompressors making the engine easier to start so a smaller starter is needed. It will be there somewhere just I haven't spotted it.

Look at any shot of the right side of the bike. The starter motor is black and is easily seen just aft and below the rear-most valve cover bolt head.

flyrodder · 10-03-2012, 12:36 PM

Wow. Dramatically different than I thought it would be.

Wet clutch in the FRONT of the engine? Gear driven alternator in the rear?

dmac57 · 10-03-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingFinn

And I really don't give a rats ass how the bike looks,
Mikko

Sure you do. We ALL do. That's why nobody but JVB bought an ST.

Some Dude · 10-03-2012, 12:45 PM

Except the title should be "2014 R1200GS ....."

2013's are already in production with the 2012 build spec's and it'll be May '13 before these hit the USA shores is my bet, which means 2014 model year designation.

radon222 · 10-03-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmac57

Sure you do. We ALL do. That's why nobody but JVB bought an ST.

Awww come on... JVB's ST has a good excuse for its ummm looks... it was totaled when he bought it

10-03-2012, 11:23 AM	#2671
Sock Monkey Corporate slave Joined: Jul 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA, Earth Oddometer: 1,553	Heat being dumped onto the riders legs? So, with no little "wings" to redirect the air coming through the radiators, won't there be a bunch of hot air getting dumped right onto the rider's legs? -SM __________________ aka NoVector Current: 2012 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, 2008 Yamaha WR250R, 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Sport - FOR SALE - PM me since they keep deleting my Flea Market ad Gone: Moto Guzzi Norge, BMW R1200GS, BMW F650 GS Dakar, KTM 520 EXC, Suzuki DRZ400E, and the list goes on.......

10-03-2012, 11:30 AM	#2674
Sock Monkey Corporate slave Joined: Jul 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA, Earth Oddometer: 1,553	At-home valve adjusts???? Will this require draining the coolant? I can't tell from the pics (thanks for those RL! VERY helpful! ) if the coolant path passes into the valve cover or not. -SM __________________ aka NoVector Current: 2012 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, 2008 Yamaha WR250R, 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Sport - FOR SALE - PM me since they keep deleting my Flea Market ad Gone: Moto Guzzi Norge, BMW R1200GS, BMW F650 GS Dakar, KTM 520 EXC, Suzuki DRZ400E, and the list goes on.......

10-03-2012, 12:36 PM	#2682
flyrodder the rose goes in front Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Oddometer: 2,632	Wow. Dramatically different than I thought it would be. Wet clutch in the FRONT of the engine? Gear driven alternator in the rear? __________________ stuff goes here

10-03-2012, 12:45 PM	#2684
Some Dude what attitude problem??? Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Woodstock, GA Oddometer: 4,609	Except the title should be "2014 R1200GS ....." 2013's are already in production with the 2012 build spec's and it'll be May '13 before these hit the USA shores is my bet, which means 2014 model year designation. __________________ Just some dude on the internet,..

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10-03-2012, 11:41 AM	#2676
ragtoplvr Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: S. W. Mssouri Oddometer: 4,543	No coolant path in the valve covers, so draining will not be requir3ed to check adjust valves. Bad thing is when water pump leaks, coolant goes in the oil. Notice how one head is driven directly from crankshaft but the other is driven from the balance shaft. Less accurate cam timing on one cylinder than the other. Over all, looks very good, but not perfect. Rod