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Old 10-03-2012, 12:49 PM   #2686
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Awww come on... JVB's ST has a good excuse for its ummm looks... it was totaled when he bought it
So, were they all totaled before they were sold?
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:56 PM   #2687
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Sure you do. We ALL do. That's why nobody but JVB bought an ST.








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Old 10-03-2012, 01:04 PM   #2688
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Hmmmm.....
I'm glad I just bought my 2012 GS. I'm not much of an engine guy, and the stats on the new bike may be great. But aesthetically, I prefer the current GS by a wide margin.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:19 PM   #2689
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Except the title should be "2014 R1200GS ....."

2013's are already in production with the 2012 build spec's and it'll be May '13 before these hit the USA shores is my bet, which means 2014 model year designation.

Actually it's looking like these are going to be for sale next year as a 2013. No guarantees, but thats the verdict at the moment.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:21 PM   #2690
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cruise control, adjustable windshield while mounted, the iDrive wheel thingy, clutch not in the bowels of the bike, no overheating (hopefully).

Curious to see what the Adventure model will be.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:42 PM   #2691
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Well said TB, and what i've been saying for some while now. What i personally can't decide is if i want to keep my Multi for the canyon fun it provides, add yet another air-cooled GS to have a great pair of uprights, or discard the MTS12s when the '13 GS arrives. I think it's going to be a much better blend of motorcycle than the current GS ESPECIALLY in road riding terms.
My MS makes my GS feel like a pig!! The only reason to get a GS over a MS is if you do alot of two up long hauls or alot of off road. The MS can do just about everything else much better. And smoking sportbikes is my favorite MS hobby.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:51 PM   #2692
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Valve adjustment is just as hard or easy as on the 2010-on camheads !
I also like the clever combined chain/gear driven cams !
Makes the engine more narrow,easier to pull the heads and less wear on the timing chain adjuster rails because the chain makes a wider radius compared to the camhead...
No leaks on the cylinder base either since the cylinders are part of the cases !
I really love the new engine design !!!
Especially the new position of the clutch and the E-gas;always perfect synchronisation.
No more splitting the bike...
Can't wait for the ADV and RS versions of the new boxer !
All BMW forgot was hydraulic valve adjusters and a true underseat pipe for 2 big sidecases...
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:17 PM   #2693
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This was probably been discussed before, but given the size of this thread I ask you again:

Why exactly they swapped FD and exhaust positions (other than forcing us to mod previously acquired bags)?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:23 PM   #2694
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mousitsas,25 hp on top give you maybe 10 mph more top speed.
In 99% of all riding situations totally irrelevant.
But a clean drive-shaft is essential for this type of motorcycle.
And for the dirt the KTM is lighter than the new GS but still way too big & heavy for being a real dirtbike...
If the new KTM had a driveshaft you might have had a point...
Now go back to work you greek-slacker;Wall-Street wants your blood...
I'll bet next generation KTM or MS will have the shaftdrive,too !


I am a chain guy as I like simplicity and light weight, even if that is going to cost me more. I also like low unsprung weight as I like drifting on the loose stuff.
And by the way, I have as many miles under my belt on a GSA as I have on the KTM I replaced it with and so I appreciate both bikes strong points, but I ain't getting any younger!
Speed is indeed irrelevant, what counts for me is how you get there and this is where the LC8 shines. Anyway, nough said, different strokes for different folks, bla bla bla, I hope we will both be able to ride both these new hoties and discuss what we think.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:35 PM   #2695
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My MS makes my GS feel like a pig!! The only reason to get a GS over a MS is if you do alot of two up long hauls or alot of off road. The MS can do just about everything else much better. And smoking sportbikes is my favorite MS hobby.
Ya, I keep hearing this about the MS, but man all the mechanical problems with that bike scare me. The latest being an issue with Ohlins suspension failure that they don't seem to be able to fix and now porous heads?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:36 PM   #2696
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Valve adjustment is just as hard or easy as on the 2010-on camheads !
I also like the clever combined chain/gear driven cams !
Makes the engine more narrow,easier to pull the heads and less wear on the timing chain adjuster rails because the chain makes a wider radius compared to the camhead...
No leaks on the cylinder base either since the cylinders are part of the cases !
I really love the new engine design !!!
Especially the new position of the clutch and the E-gas;always perfect synchronisation.
No more splitting the bike...
Can't wait for the ADV and RS versions of the new boxer !
All BMW forgot was hydraulic valve adjusters and a true underseat pipe for 2 big sidecases...
No more splitting the bike? Did you notice that the alternator is covered by the tranny case now? Not really sure how great that's gonna work.

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Old 10-03-2012, 02:48 PM   #2697
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Actually, this bike i aimed to be MORE offroad than the previous version.
They better have as KTM is bringing it real strong coming in from the other side, more street friendly.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:50 PM   #2698
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This was probably been discussed before, but given the size of this thread I ask you again:

Why exactly they swapped FD and exhaust positions (other than forcing us to mod previously acquired bags)?
i believe it's a stronger unit from the K bikes.
it's BMW of moving forward w/o admitting the old way had issues.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:41 PM   #2699
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This was probably been discussed before, but given the size of this thread I ask you again:

Why exactly they swapped FD and exhaust positions (other than forcing us to mod previously acquired bags)?
I thought I read in one of the gazillion press sheets that by switching sides, they were able to reduce the rotational effects of the crank/drive shaft.....

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:46 PM   #2700
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No leaks on the cylinder base either since the cylinders are part of the cases !
So when your cylinder/head smacks a rock, now you get to replace the entire engine when the base of the cylinder cracks.....





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