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Old 10-05-2012, 09:57 PM   #2896
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28K how did you come up with that?
Either lives outside the US or has never really priced a BMW bike?
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:19 PM   #2897
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I had posted earlier regarding having read that the LED was only for daytime running lights, with HID being the main light. I was wrong about the HID… it's halogen, according to this blurb on webbike.com:
Seeing and being seen as well as possible - these are crucial factors on which the safety and therefore fun of motorcycling depend. This is why BMW Motorrad also dedicated intense efforts to the development of a new lighting unit for the R 1200 GS.

The new standard halogen headlight is not only considerably smaller than the previous one. In terms of road illumination, too, it offers top-level lighting technology for both low and high beam. Intensive tests in the BMW Group lighting tunnel have generated light levels which - given the same light emission area - achieve significantly better results in terms of perceptibility and vision for night riding as compared to the competition.

BMW Motorrad offers an additional daytime running light with LED technology as an ex works option. The unit consists of four LED modules and is integrated underneath the main halogen headlight. The daytime running light allows other road users to differentiate the motorcycle much more clearly, thereby offering a huge safety benefit. What is more, the use of LED technology means a lower level of energy consumption and an extended lifetime.

The daytime running light is switched on either automatically via a light sensor or manually instead of the main headlight using the "Daytime running light" switch. When darkness falls or when entering a tunnel, there is an automatic switchover to the halogen main headlight, providing optimum road illumination to ensure excellent visibility.

So, the question remains as to whether or not there is an LED high or low beam available as an option.
Halogen is standard, the options are 1. LED daytime running light or 2. ALL LED, yes, high, low and daytime running light. The picture should resolve any doubt:

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Old 10-05-2012, 10:40 PM   #2898
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I would like to see another wind tunnel shot, with the seat high instead of low and with a 6'5" rider
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:11 PM   #2899
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I just realized that they finally moved the oil sight glass to the same side of the bike as the oil fill!
since 2005 on the HP2E and 2007 on the MM.

HP2S on the other side.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:35 PM   #2900
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That's an interview with the product manager for the new 1200GS.
He mentioned "Precission-cooling" with 65% air cooling and 35% water cooling, water replacing oil...
He says that both the old and the 2013 GS weigh 238kg (with ABS).
2.8kg more weight due to water and the coolers...however they were able to reduce the weight of the drive train....
The water cooling is not "visible"
For the first time in 90 years shaft drive moves to the left...
benefit muffler on the right side (side effect no burned feet when handling the bike and moving it on the main stand...)





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Old 10-05-2012, 11:46 PM   #2901
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Anyone else seeing a little of this from the front of the bike?

Hehe!

I think we should call it the Prawn-head.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:18 AM   #2902
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Love the bike so far, but as mentioned that beak! Hopefully a Adventure like beak available to smooth it out a bit. How does it pass test for pedestrian safety? Stick a few on the front of your car and see how long before the coppers are onto you?
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:01 AM   #2903
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Love the bike so far, but as mentioned that beak! Hopefully a Adventure like beak available to smooth it out a bit. How does it pass test for pedestrian safety? Stick a few on the front of your car and see how long before the coppers are onto you?
Can't see me issuing a work order to myself...
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:47 AM   #2904
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Hehe!

I think we should call it the Prawn-head.
Na ... it opens a new class of bikes: Sporkbikes.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:44 AM   #2905
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He says that both the old and the 2013 GS weigh 238kg (with ABS).
2.8kg more weight due to water and the coolers...however they were able to reduce the weight of the drive train....
I figured that might be the case. BMW tends to quote weights for bikes in a basic spec (no ABS or other goodies), and I suspect that the 229 kg weight of the GS on their website was optimistic in any case. Certainly when the GS has been independently weighed, it's around the 240 kg mark.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:21 AM   #2906
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BMW's listed weights are optimistic. Someone at the link below weighed a fully fueled 1200GS and it was nearly 243kg. The GSA was 273.

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....postcount=2381
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:28 AM   #2907
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The new WC/GS looks very, very promising (I really like it). However, whats its wheelbase and head angle? If BMW went to "sport" with these changes, I just might stay old school with the previous version, because of its near perfect balance of canyon carving/stay with sport bikes and ability to tour.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:42 AM   #2908
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The new WC/GS looks very, very promising (I really like it). However, whats its wheelbase and head angle? If BMW went to "sport" with these changes, I just might stay old school with the previous version, because of its near perfect balance of canyon carving/stay with sport bikes and ability to tour.
All the dimensions are on the BMW website.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:05 AM   #2909
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You're not the first person to say that in this thread. It confuses me, though. My hexhead R1200GS has the sight glass and the fill on the same side. So did my oilhead R1100RS. What am I missing here?
Like Paladin said right behind you... the Camheads have the sight glass on the left and fill on the right.

Its really fun topping off the oil when you have to keep running around to the other side check the level
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:21 AM   #2910
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Like Paladin said right behind you... the Camheads have the sight glass on the left and fill on the right.

Its really fun topping off the oil when you have to keep running around to the other side check the level
Maybe there is a bit of (odd) German logic to this:

"Vell you tipp ze little bit of oil, and by ze time you have valked around ze motozikle to ze sight glass, ze oil level vill have settled out, zo you know PRECIZLEY! How much more oil it needz. Ya, this is good Cherman logic. Sure, it takes you 5 minutes to do thirty second job, but what price PRECIZION!"
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