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Old 10-15-2012, 05:19 PM   #3256
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You guys are hung up on the three letter prefix. AIR, OIL, HEX, and CAM are all nouns. WET is an adjective.
Therefore, my vote is for WATERhead





Hex isn't a cooling mechanism.

The concept is three letters, one syllable, and representative.

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These non-conformists are obviously trying to give you chest pain!!!
Maybe we can do a poll on what to call it?
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:19 PM   #3257
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Can we have a vote somehow? How?
I'd be interested in finding out how many Camhead owners (%) are thinking of upgrading to the Wethead and
how many are waiting for the Adventure version to arrive.
I got a wethead last night, from the wife....

And the non-Adv waterboxer is on my short list.

But if a killer deal came up on a used camhead for far less coin, I'd go that route.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:47 PM   #3258
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I got a wethead last night, from the wife....

And the non-Adv waterboxer is on my short list.

But if a killer deal came up on a used camhead for far less coin, I'd go that route.
Congrats on last night :-)
Camhead retail value will no doubt drop now, I don't like that.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:30 PM   #3259
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Piss heads - because that's what they will do when we crash them.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:38 PM   #3260
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Congrats on last night :-)
Camhead retail value will no doubt drop now, I don't like that.

I wonder about this as well. I just purchased a new '12 GS Adv and will probably end up trading in a few years on a new model.

I think there is a strong enough following to the older models that retail should stay fairly strong. At least that's the lie I'm living to feel better about my purchase! Lovin' my Sam Adams Oktoberfest right now....
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:51 PM   #3261
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my short list got a wethead from the wife last night
You've got a short what?

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:32 PM   #3262
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Piss heads - because that's what they will do when we crash them.


Yep.

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:36 PM   #3263
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First of all I consider these adventure/exploring bikes not dirt bikes and where I go it's not a race.. The limiting factor on my exploring has always been looking up or down something inviting and challaging but not being able to go after it for fear I'll never be able to get it turned around if I get in trouble. I'll be waiting on the adventure model for the guards, larger fuel tank, spoke wheels, and more rugged luggage. It's not the water cooled that gets my attention, I see the main advantages of the new bike in this order

1). Lower seat height for better offroading
2). Easy access wet clutch
3). Cassette style transmission (someone will make a tranny gear set with a reverse). This will finally make these serious exploring machines. I have friends with Urals and they can go where I can't because they can back out of stuff..
4). Less complicated engine to final drive interface.
5). Wider tires. Better weight to area ratio for deep sand.

What I'm not crazy about is traction control....just unnecessary complication to me....
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:51 PM   #3264
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First of all, blah, blah, blah
Can I suggest a KLR or DR?

Geebs.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:08 PM   #3265
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Can I suggest a KLR or DR?

Geebs.
I have enduro dual sports, you have to trailer those the distances I ride on tmhe gs and a lot of exploring I do is two up....
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:23 AM   #3266
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Motorrad is calling it a Wasserboxer and also a Wasserkuh.

Interesting note from Motorrad:

BMW still considers the Wasserboxer as air cooled. Why? Because 65% of heat dissipation still happens through the fins, down from 78% with the oilhead.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:16 AM   #3267
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Motorrad is calling it a Wasserboxer and also a Wasserkuh.

Interesting note from Motorrad:

BMW still considers the Wasserboxer as air cooled. Why? Because 65% of heat dissipation still happens through the fins, down from 78% with the oilhead.
Seems like a limp home mode in case of coolant loss should be doable. Hope BMW considers it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:19 AM   #3268
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Congrats on last night :-)
Camhead retail value will no doubt drop now, I don't like that.
If I had a nice camhead like yours I wouldn't be in a rush to buy a first year waterboxer.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:31 AM   #3269
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Can we have a vote somehow? How?
I'd be interested in finding out how many Camhead owners (%) are thinking of upgrading to the Wethead and
how many are waiting for the Adventure version to arrive.
I ride a 2012 triple black and have an order on for the new water cooled GS when it arrives in March. I change my bikes regularly (at least once a year) and cannot wait for the new one to arrive.

Re the reliability of the new model, this doesn't worry me one bit, as the bike is 5 years in development, and BMW will get this right.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:20 AM   #3270
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First of all I consider these adventure/exploring bikes not dirt bikes and where I go it's not a race.. The limiting factor on my exploring has always been looking up or down something inviting and challaging but not being able to go after it for fear I'll never be able to get it turned around if I get in trouble. I'll be waiting on the adventure model for the guards, larger fuel tank, spoke wheels, and more rugged luggage. It's not the water cooled that gets my attention, I see the main advantages of the new bike in this order

1). Lower seat height for better offroading
2). Easy access wet clutch
3). Cassette style transmission (someone will make a tranny gear set with a reverse). This will finally make these serious exploring machines. I have friends with Urals and they can go where I can't because they can back out of stuff..
4). Less complicated engine to final drive interface.
5). Wider tires. Better weight to area ratio for deep sand.

What I'm not crazy about is traction control....just unnecessary complication to me....
I have not researched this, would you care to elaborate and explain any benefits you see as a result?
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