The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[EJ_92606]

Originally Posted by Stub deToe

In my opinion the sound is nice from what I heard as it was rolled out. But there is a factory Akropovic can already listed as an option for the wannabe Harley riders out there.

I found the GS lower to the ground than my previous GSAs and GSs for sure. They do offer various seat configurations, so this should appeal to those with a less than 32" inseam > broader appeal.

Seat height is the same as the camhead and the bike itself has higher ground clearance than a camhead, however, what you might be feeling is that the front of the seat is narrower, hence making reach to the ground easier when you push forward on the seat.

[texzen]

Originally Posted by EJ_92606

Seat height is the same as the camhead and the bike itself has higher ground clearance than a camhead, however, what you might be feeling is that the front of the seat is narrower, hence making reach to the ground easier when you push forward on the seat.

It says that but I crudely laid a couple of images over each other scaling off the rim size and the new one is lower. A Little in the front maybe 3/4 inch but a lot less in back. Its not sloped near as much as the old GS....

[tallguy-09]

As much as I like the new GS I think the older looks a bit cleaner especially in the area just above the cylinders.
The old GS does not look that old to me. The new looks a bit like somebody used an oversized wrench and twisted those cylinders


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[GSMarc]

@ TEXZEN

New WC-GS

Hauteur de selle à vide	850 / 870 mm ((selle basse* 820 / 840 mm, kit de surbaissement* 790 mm / 810 mm) *OE
Arcade entrejambe	1870 / 1910 mm (selle basse* 1820 / 1860 mm, kit de surbaissement* 1770 / 1810 mm) *OE

DOHC GS

Altezza sella con peso a vuoto	Altezza sella 850/870 mm (sella bassa: 820 mm, ciclistica ribassata: 790 mm)
Arco del cavallo, con peso a vuoto	Lunghezza al cavallo 1.890/1.940 mm (sella bassa: 1.820 mm, ciclistica ribassata: 1.760 mm)

[EJ_92606]

Originally Posted by texzen

It says that but I crudely laid a couple of images over each other scaling off the rim size and the new one is lower. A Little in the front maybe 3/4 inch but a lot less in back. Its not sloped near as much as the old GS....

Well unless you had a chance to examine the bike and see what settings were used on seat height on the new GS and to verify if a low saddle was used, it's hard to say. I do agree the saddle on the wethead does look flatter, but it could also be raised in front and lowered in back using the adjusters. As for height, I trust that BMW can measure it accurately. They do mention easier ability to reach the ground through a change in the seat width at the front of the saddle...the rear part of the saddle has been widened.

[KMC1]

Am I the only one that heard the announcer say Wasserboxer when the Chris Pfeiffer was stunting with it??

Uh oh.....

[twinrider]

Originally Posted by KMC1

Am I the only one that heard the announcer say Wasserboxer when the Chris Pfeiffer was stunting with it??

Nope, I heard it too...

[GB]

Originally Posted by Aviatordoc

Thats what was published so far, but I find that to be such a waste. To go to all this trouble of incorporating it in the design of the bike only to just control the NAV.
Theres got to be more planned. Maybe select ESA and then the wheel for going through the menu and selection

The BMW publicity video clearly shows the rider selecting ESA modes with the rotary dial. I have an inkling that the only thing you won't be able to do with it is to control the GPS. It might have been lost in translation "nicht kontrol das GPS" this is true of the RT. in the K1600 the rotary dial controls some GPS functions only if you ordered the bike with GPS prep kit and you used the BMW nav 4. Using the zumo 660 won't work. The latter will power up but no control from the dial. SO my hunch the rotary dial on the gs will allow the rider to scroll thru and select various menu options, except the GPS.

[Moronic]

Originally Posted by tallguy-09

As much as I like the new GS I think the older looks a bit cleaner especially in the area just above the cylinders.
The old GS does not look that old to me. The new looks a bit like somebody used an oversized wrench and twisted those cylinders


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Eyes of the beholder and all that. I got precisely the opposite impression. Was looking at 2012s for sale on the net this week and was shocked at how dowdy they looked after a few days ogling their pert younger sisters.

It is a great time to be in the market for a new adventure tourer. I am glad I've resisted temptation till now. Looking forward to test time. Wonder how many model years it will take before KTM, Honda and Ducati add cruise to their offerings.

[mkletecka]

As I've mentioned before, should I get the tried and proven AC/GS or wait in line, pay full price and get soaked on the new WC/GS? IMHO, my 2009 GS was the best “street/real world” do-it-all machine I've owned (I’m sorry I sold it). With that in mind, how much faster can I really go on the new WC/GS, how much better will it handle? Will it be more comfortable? Etc., Etc.

Well, the more I look at the new WC and its specs, “I feel” (feelings can be deceptive) the sum total of the changes / refinements of the new WC will add up - and out class, and surpass the previous version by a good margin. However, my pocket book is asking me, will it be $5K to $7K better than a used 2011 or 12, which many will be trading in or selling? In short, at this time I don’t which one to get!!!

[sebastianp]

Motor sound courtesy of Motorrad magazine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...chT-OpSA#t=22s

(for some reason I can't embed this youtube clip)

Sounds fine to me.

[twinrider]

Sounds good. Need to use the embed code.

[joeybeats]

Originally Posted by GB

The BMW publicity video clearly shows the rider selecting ESA modes with the rotary dial. ....

GB, will you please provide a link to the publicity video you are referencing? Thanks! Joey

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by twinrider

Sounds good. Need to use the embed code.

Typical BMW boxer industrial farting sound.

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by tallguy-09

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It seems that the new engine sits lower than the older version. This would definitely create lower center of gravity and help stabilize more.