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Old 11-01-2012, 06:35 AM   #3511
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You just called people like me who don't like the new beak 'fashionistas'. I was defending us by suggesting that change for the nearly indisputably uglier with no gain in function is a poor excuse for change.
The faux high fender beak never had any function to begin with. Analogous to vestigial nipples on a male. You know, if this thing had tits, this is where they'd be.

What's interesting is that the beak has become the design cue that defines the Adventure Bike genre.


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Old 11-01-2012, 03:12 PM   #3512
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I still want one, but i hate how they went away with the paddle turn signals.
and I like the beaks!
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:09 PM   #3513
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I still want one, but i hate how they went away with the paddle turn signals.
and I like the beaks!
I love how they went to a normal turn signal. My harley has individual left and right buttons but at least harley makes a true self cancel that cancels after the turn.

I cant believe i just said that i love something about the harley more than my beloved gsa.

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Old 11-02-2012, 02:12 AM   #3514
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I still want one, but i hate how they went away with the paddle turn signals.
Yeah, that's a real pity, as I'm one of the few that likes the current switches.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:44 AM   #3515
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Yeah, that's a real pity, as I'm one of the few that likes the current switches.
I'm with you on that one... The 'normal' signals should be an option and nothing more.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #3516
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The 'normal' signals should be an option and nothing more.
An option for different turn signal switches? That would be wacky and a nightmare to keep stock in the channel since it wouldn't be something that couldn't be easily swapped at the dealer level. Should Triumph have an option for right-side-shifting/left-side-braking for those wanting to match their 1969 Bonny?

This is a classic example of a no-win for BMW. For years and years, they've been chastised repeatedly and vehemently for being stubborn about their non-standard turn signal switchgear. So they finally change it and now we have folks up in arms about the change.

This is a tempest in a teapot. Get over it. Adapt.

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Old 11-02-2012, 11:06 AM   #3517
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An option for different turn signal switches? That would be wacky and a nightmare to keep stock in the channel since it wouldn't be something that couldn't be easily swapped at the dealer level. Should Triumph have an option for right-side-shifting/left-side-braking for those wanting to match their 1969 Bonny?

This is a classic example of a no-win for BMW. For years and years, they've been chastised repeatedly and vehemently for being stubborn about their non-standard turn signal switchgear. So they finally change it and now we have folks up in arms about the change.

This is a tempest in a teapot. Get over it. Adapt.

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Exactly.

I would be willing to bet there are more people that appreciate the industry standard switches than dislike them. While I like the independant switchgear signals of BMW and HD, I really dislike how the BMW cancels...making me do anything with my throttle hand just downright pisses me off. There is no need for it...completely uncalled for...
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:42 PM   #3518
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Exactly.

I would be willing to bet there are more people that appreciate the industry standard switches than dislike them. While I like the independant switchgear signals of BMW and HD, I really dislike how the BMW cancels...making me do anything with my throttle hand just downright pisses me off. There is no need for it...completely uncalled for...
So it's rear wheel only braking for you then?
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #3519
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So it's rear wheel only braking for you then?


Linked brakes!

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PS I know a guy who only has linked brakes. His right hand is barely functional.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:12 PM   #3520
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Linked brakes!
Not on the GS. The front lever also activates rear brakes, but the foot lever activates only rear brakes.

Btw: it's in your own FAQ ...
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:21 PM   #3521
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I love how they went to a normal turn signal.
Same here. I've test driven a GS a couple of times and the BMW turn signals were a real PITA for me. It may be a minor issue but it made me think twice about even buying a BMW. Very glad they changed to the industry standard switches.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:30 PM   #3522
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I don't mind the BMW paddle signals overmuch, I prefer the standard style.

But but but but but.

I really dislike the quasi-solid turnsignal switch they use now. Normal setup has a switch with a relatively large throw, but BMWs little nubbin hardly moves.

I also don't like losing the big hotgrip switch with physical states, I assume the new hotgrip switch is just a toggle which you have to read off the instrument panel?
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:20 PM   #3523
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I really dislike the quasi-solid turnsignal switch they use now. Normal setup has a switch with a relatively large throw, but BMWs little nubbin hardly moves.

I also don't like losing the big hotgrip switch with physical states, I assume the new hotgrip switch is just a toggle which you have to read off the instrument panel?
The turn signal switch is not mechanical, like on other bikes, so it doesn't need as long a throw.

The heated grips button is also not mechanical, press it once or press it twice and watch for the heated grips symbol on the LCD display.

The new switchgear has been troublesome on the K16 with repeated clutch side switch failures and new part numbers for newer gen switches.. so we'll see how it works on the new GS.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:41 PM   #3524
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The faux high fender beak never had any function to begin with.


Down force and funneling air to the oil cooler?
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:08 PM   #3525
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The faux high fender beak never had any function to begin with.
It significantly reduces water/mud splash against the headlights, it funnels air to the oil cooler, it slightly protects the Telelever from stuff thrown at it from vehicles ahead.
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