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Old 08-20-2011, 09:16 AM   #391
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It all looks pretty good to me....... for what it is. I reckon it will be more MS like, too. I can't imagine it will be more dirt-oriented than the current iteration. That Termi looks the part. 130 and radial brakes? I'm in if it's 2013. Perfect timing for me as I'll be able to have both. ;)
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:40 AM   #392
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I wonder what this will do for the resell value and sales numbers of the 2012 model, assuming the LC will be sold in 2012 as a 2013 model?
Will many early adopters sell their "old technology" GS? I can see that but not sure, I'm definitely tempted, after thinking about it there's not much I dislike about the current model; in a few years I might get one, when the aftermarket farkling stuff is available...
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:50 AM   #393
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I can't imagine it will do much. Didn't seem to hurt 1150's much.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:56 AM   #394
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Well, if they really are flipping the exhaust, there are going to be a bunch of unhappy GS fans with bags that will no longer work. I'd have to replace my Micatechs.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:21 AM   #395
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I do hope the radiator version will be an option and they will continue to offer the boxer as a oil/air cooled motor.

Not really a big fan of BMW or their engineering principles, but I certainly do love the GS and it's boxer motor, as-is.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:49 AM   #396
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Well, if they really are flipping the exhaust, there are going to be a bunch of unhappy GS fans with bags that will no longer work. I'd have to replace my Micatechs.
Job security for the aftermarket (Touratech- as it seems they'll have the first available farkles for it since they're symbol is on the test bike) companies and more options (vs buying new) for those with the older bikes when folks sell there old stuff for new for this one. Probably several things that would have to be new build for this bike if the front end has been redone as well. Looks to be nice though. Time will tell and good luck to all the testers on these. I'll be keepin' my 09 Adv. and waiting to see how it all works out.

And maybe just the angle of things but it doens't look to have the catalytic converter betweent the pipes and muffler as the current bikes. Maybe in the muffler itself?
Spark plug wiring fwd vs behind the cylinder
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:04 PM   #397
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"Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I do hope the radiator version will be an option and they will continue to offer the boxer as a oil/air cooled motor"

Not likely...
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:11 PM   #398
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Looks cool. I could do without the water cooling but more HP would be nice. Hopefully they don`t make it any heavier or more road oriented than it is already. I`ll stick with what I have for now and let the guys who must have the latest and greatest be the test dummies for this one and work out the new model glitches. Maybe in a few years if its so much better that its worth trading up I will.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:32 PM   #399
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:44 PM   #400
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I like it but I'm still gonna keep my '08 GSA. I love the way it handles compared to my K12S, there's too much life in it yet and the motor is too easy to work on. I also think the AC motor makes a lot of sense for trips away from civilization and would still be easier to ride in dodgy traction conditions. I'll wait for them to do the LC platform in the RT. An LC motor with 120-130 hp & more torque would be much better for highway running & sport touring. I'm also interested in seeing what engineering trade-offs BMW made to put on the radiators such as fuel tank capacity and how they're going to do the adventure cases. If BMW is going to debut it at the Euro shows then it will probably be a 2012 release.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:06 PM   #401
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They moved the drive to the left so you're forced to buy new saddlebags!

Leave it to BMW...

Or, like a friend and I were thinking, they sourced the drive from the more powerful K-series bikes to save re-engineering it.

Add me to the list of conjecture mongers.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:21 PM   #402
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I wonder how much weight all the water related components will add.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:29 PM   #403
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I wonder how much weight all the water related components will add.
Thats what I was wondering. If it has more HP but its heavier making the power to weight ratio similar to the air cooled bikes then what`s the point? They need to lighten the bike up IMO.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:33 PM   #404
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-Love to know why they put shaft on other side (cross platform mfg simplicity?)
If the drawing on the page 19 is correct, transmission is integrated to the engine and transmission output shaft is on the left.

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And, why did they reverse the engine direction? I usually put my right foot down at stop and when revving the engine the bike goes to the right. If I were to do that on the new bike I would be falling over. That can't be safe!
They didn't reverse the engine direction, just the transmission. It might well prevent the new bike from falling over... If the engine goes clockwise the transmission goes the other way and bike stays still.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:57 PM   #405
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The 2013 LC GS is really a "Horizontal Flip" of the 2009, moving muffler and shaft to the other side

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