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 12-20-2012, 01:59 AM #4081 Montauk Gnarly Adventurer   Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Fruit County in Golden State, USA Oddometer: 264 As an engineer, when actual data is not available, you try to approximate as close as possible and leave some room for error. In this case I would find the difference in weight of current model 2012 GS/GSA using "dry", and do the same for "wet". Now you have 2 weights. Add 1-2 lbs for ABS (chime in guys if I am wrong in my ABS approximation). We are assuming that GSA gas tank will remain same as current. In the new, they might shave off 1-2 lbs using stronger and lighter plastics. This will cancel with weight added due to ABS. To approximate the wet weight of a new GSA, add the wet difference to new 2013 GS model. So there you have it. Similarly you could approximate dry weight backwards.
12-20-2012, 02:14 AM   #4082
Montauk

Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Fruit County in Golden State, USA
Oddometer: 264
Quote:
 Originally Posted by GSMarc weight is one of the main variable for a bike, specially if you want to go in various environments.
Yes, but it becomes fixed variable, you can't decrease it but will only increase due to farkling etc. No matter which environment you go on the globe, it will remain static. Am I missing something here? Perhaps you are trying to figure out something that we don't know

 12-20-2012, 02:19 AM #4083 GSMarc Studly Adventurer     Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 876 main variable for making your choice to buy or not... Why do you believe I have only HP2... __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2014 KTM EXC450 6Days 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (fortunately sold)
 12-20-2012, 02:40 AM #4084 Montauk Gnarly Adventurer   Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Fruit County in Golden State, USA Oddometer: 264 Specific Gravity of gasoline (petrol) is 0.739 Kg/L multiply with 20L = 14.78 Kg (32.6 lbs) -> weight of gasoline in the GS. 1 US Gal gasoline = 1.629 lbs/L x 3.785 L/US Gal = 6.2 lbs.
12-20-2012, 02:48 AM   #4085
Montauk

Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Fruit County in Golden State, USA
Oddometer: 264
Quote:
 Originally Posted by GSMarc main variable for making your choice to buy or not... Why do you believe I have only HP2...
Choice is rather clear. Don't buy GS or GSA. It's too heavy to ponder on

 12-20-2012, 03:12 AM #4086 GSMarc Studly Adventurer     Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 876 when I had my R1150GS, I remember BMW said : "The target of our technical staff for the new model is to reduce the weight by 30 kg (66lbs)" and they did. When they did the HP2E,MM,HP2S the target was to reduce weight too. I don't understand why the new R1200GS increases its weight again From my point of view, minus 30 kg again (-66lbs) with 110 Hp as DOHC has now was a better way to go. __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2014 KTM EXC450 6Days 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (fortunately sold)
12-20-2012, 05:14 AM   #4087
oalvarez
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Joined: Dec 2007
Location: CA HWY 2
Oddometer: 2,332
Quote:
 Originally Posted by GSMarc I don't understand why the new R1200GS increases its weight again
It could be due to a variety of factors.

We know the new GS weighs as much or more than its predecessor in wet form. The thought is as much as 29lbs depending on what option group the new one is being compared to.

Regardless, and as others (EJ?) have mentioned, why not subtract out the weight of the fluids and maybe even the battery to get an idea of the weight measurement you're after?
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 12-20-2012, 06:47 AM #4088 GSMarc Studly Adventurer     Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 876 Well, I was searching that info for another forum. The fluid is 26 kg (57lbs) on the DOHC and 2,4 kg(?) for ABS Dry : 203 kg (447.5lbs) Fluid : 26 kg (57lbs) ========== sub-Total 229 kg ready to go (504.5lbs) ABS : 2,4 kg (?) (5.3lbs) ========== Total : 231,4 kg (510lbs) If the press relates 524lbs wet, it means 14 lbs more (about 6.5kg) I'm not personnaly interrested, I know it will be too heavy for me __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2014 KTM EXC450 6Days 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (fortunately sold) GSMarc screwed with this post 12-20-2012 at 06:55 AM
 12-20-2012, 07:00 AM #4089 Marki_GSA Gnarly Adventurer   Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Scotland Oddometer: 309 BMW used to or still do (can't be bothered to go look) publish both dry and wet on their UK site. They also publish a maximum ladened weight as well.
 12-20-2012, 07:43 AM #4090 GSMarc Studly Adventurer     Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 876 Yes, dry weight is present for all the models on all the national websites. But missing everywhere for the new WC GS __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2014 KTM EXC450 6Days 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (fortunately sold)
12-20-2012, 08:08 AM   #4091
Marki_GSA

Joined: Sep 2011
Location: Scotland
Oddometer: 309
Quote:
 Originally Posted by GSMarc Yes, dry weight is present for all the models on all the national websites. But missing everywhere for the new WC GS
Just checked and the UK site has the fully fueled weight on it for the WC. It's 238kg and is in the technical data section.

 12-20-2012, 08:14 AM #4092 GSMarc Studly Adventurer     Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 876 yes, I know that. Dry weight is missing everywhere for WC GS, not wet (ready to ride) weight __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2014 KTM EXC450 6Days 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (fortunately sold)
 12-20-2012, 08:28 AM #4093 oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin     Joined: Dec 2007 Location: CA HWY 2 Oddometer: 2,332 ok, excellent....onto the next. __________________ 2014 Ducati Multistrada S Touring 2003 Aprilia Tuono Racing 2012 Vespa 300 Super past: Ducatis, Aprilias, Moto Guzzis, a Husky, and some BMWs as well.
12-20-2012, 08:48 AM   #4094
cug
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Joined: May 2009
Location: Sunny California
Oddometer: 4,196
Quote:
 Originally Posted by GSMarc I'm not personnaly interrested, I know it will be too heavy for me
You know, it's kind of useless to discuss raw numbers that way. The 2006 V-Strom DL650 I had weighed probably 30lbs less than the 2010 R1200GS and it felt like it was about half a ton heavier ... and then again, the Super Tenere 1200 is about 40 to 50lbs or so heavier than a standard GS (both standard trim, no farkles), and still feels smaller and and possibly even lighter.

It's not only about the weight, it's also where and how it's carried.

 12-20-2012, 09:21 AM #4095 Dorsicano OP Adventurer   Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Grand Duchy Oddometer: 88 a few of us are all obsessed about the pounds on our bikes and tend to disregards the pounds on our waist. I could buy a 238 Kg GS LC and lose 5 Kg myself and the net result would be same as old GS and current me.

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