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Old 01-27-2013, 07:26 PM   #4426
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Already, dealers can't repair it ..

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True statement because the bike isn't even out yet!
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:39 PM   #4427
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Main problem with that bike is the awfull amount of electronics ready to break ... Particularly with the electronic suspension which is incredeably expensive to repair. $3000 and more ...

Already, dealers can't repair it ..

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Probably a good idea if you don't buy one!

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:45 PM   #4428
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True statement because the bike isn't even out yet!
Sorry for the misunderstanding ... I just said that dealers have a hard time when facing problems on the actual GS. I.e. 2012 AND OLDER. 2013 GS reportedly packs much more ...

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:58 PM   #4429
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Main problem with that bike is the awfull amount of electronics ready to break ... Particularly with the electronic suspension which is incredeably expensive to repair. $3000 and more ...

Already, dealers can't repair it ..

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Modern cars have an "awfull amount of electronics" compared to the past and yet they have become much more reliable and maintenance free so I don't know why the electronics are being seen as "ready to break". I still play around with old bikes and can't see them as having the edge with reliability.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:33 PM   #4430
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Oalvarez, have u ridden a Diavel? I think the WC GS and a Diavel would be great stable mates. I'm considering the new GS or the 1190 ADV to go along with my Diavel.
Go GS. You've already got one that's high maintenance...

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Old 01-27-2013, 08:45 PM   #4431
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One for each part of the tour.

ALESSIO CIGOLINI - Asia
SALVADOR ECHEVARRÍA - South Africa
HERBERT UNGER - New Zealand
STEPHANE GAUTRONNEAU - USA
STEPHANIE ROWE - Europe

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http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/i...html&notrack=1
So they did end up picking a USA winner? Wasn't there a huge stink on this same thread a few weeks ago because there wasn't enough diversity in the winners?
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:46 PM   #4432
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Modern cars have an "awfull amount of electronics" compared to the past and yet they have become much more reliable and maintenance free so I don't know why the electronics are being seen as "ready to break". I still play around with old bikes and can't see them as having the edge with reliability.
+1. Constantly tinkering on my 73 R75 airhead, 56k miles. 2005 oilhead, 38k miles, not a problem.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:47 PM   #4433
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So they did end up picking a USA winner? Wasn't there a huge stink on this same thread a few weeks ago because there wasn't enough diversity in the winners?
No, that is just the person that will ride the USA route!

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Old 01-27-2013, 08:48 PM   #4434
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No, that is just the person that will ride the USA route!

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Jim, I was just about to nuke my post, cause I was reading it on the BMW site!
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #4435
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Wasn't there a huge stink on this same thread a few weeks ago because there wasn't enough diversity in the winners?
Who cares? There is never any real diversity. They pick people that will look good for the marketing. Deal done. European company, more likely to get European winners. The US is the second biggest market but it's still only 11% of the overall sales (2012).

So - they pick what looks good and other than the handful of people that applied and are pissed because they weren't chosen, nobody cares. And they're not chosen because of diversity issues. They were likely not chosen because they didn't look good enough for the marketing material for the target market.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:05 PM   #4436
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Who cares? There is never any real diversity. They pick people that will look good for the marketing. Deal done. European company, more likely to get European winners. The US is the second biggest market but it's still only 11% of the overall sales (2012).

So - they pick what looks good and other than the handful of people that applied and are pissed because they weren't chosen, nobody cares. And they're not chosen because of diversity issues. They were likely not chosen because they didn't look good enough for the marketing material for the target market.
I'm well aware of how marketing works. I wasn't one of the people causing the stink. It was a mistake on my part as well as one rider is riding in the USA.

Side note, is it just me or does ALESSIO CIGOLINI, the first rider to have videos put out, and the first person on their Riders page resemble Ewan McGregor. Now that is some subliminal marketing
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That's Ewan stunt-double if I've even seen one.
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Side note, is it just me or does ALESSIO CIGOLINI, the first rider to have videos put out, and the first person on their Riders page resemble Ewan McGregor.
Same hair cut but other than that - doesn't look close to me.
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I was more interested in the jury who were apparently all Hollywood types who ride to varying degrees. That should immediately tell you that this is all marketing.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:44 PM   #4440
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I was more interested in the jury who were apparently all Hollywood types who ride to varying degrees. That should immediately tell you that this is all marketing.
Yes and BMW thanks you for contributing to the hype
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