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Old 02-03-2013, 09:25 AM   #4771
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Snip... have sense of humour...SNIP

But well, I think I loose my time here trying to share fun experience... Cheers
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I have enjoyed your posts and it is nice to have an insider working with the new bike to provide commentary about its strengths and any weakness it might have so please don't consider your time wasted due to a few folks here.SNIP... Thanks and be safe out there.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:58 AM   #4772
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You were in Quebec city Yesterday ??? Cause it's me sitting on the bike ...

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Old 02-03-2013, 10:13 AM   #4773
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You are obviously an expert.
Please clarify "sane major OEM"
And if possible, advise of any insane ones. I won't buy from them.
Thanks
You are correct, I am an expert.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:38 AM   #4774
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as a counterpoint.....Ducati.....the maker of the 1199 Panigale which was first sold earlier in 2012. fast forward to today, they've reached out to the bike's owners alerting them of a potential hazard/danger attributed to heat output of the exhaust/heads, and that a fix is in place. not just a little bit of heat from what i've learned, but enough heat to cause possible/potential physical harm to the rider's skin. did the manufacturer not know of the heat issue prior to its release? could you imagine a salesperson telling a potential customer a year ago that the bike emitted such heat and that it would be unbearably hot to ride in certain ambient temps?

yes, tank slappers/head shakes can happen, to any bike, but it happening (one very violently) to three reviewers out of twenty on the same model bike gives cause for concern, specifically and justifiably more so to those about to spend $20k+ on a new one.

if the tank slapper concern isn't justified, then waiting to buy a new model year bike until the second year isn't either.
I may have misunderstood, but surely you aren't comparing the R&D of BMW to that of Ducati? The Panigale is a niche bike that sells in very small numbers compared to the GS, the GS has spent 5 years in development.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:48 AM   #4775
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I may have misunderstood, but surely you aren't comparing the R&D of BMW to that of Ducati? The Panigale is a niche bike that sells in very small numbers compared to the GS, the GS has spent 5 years in development.
you misunderstood. i asked a question related to Ducati releasing a bike with a flaw that was probably known from the start, the same type of question we're posing, wondering, contemplating in regards to the reported head shake of the new GS. you go on to compare the Panigale to the GS in regards to their each bike's sales, and subsequently point to the 5yrs that the new GS has been in development. don't forget, that's a R&D team from the same manufacturer who's still trying get out from the "final drive" cloud that has hung over its head for some time now.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:51 AM   #4776
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Then you don't have sense of humour... That my way of being. Joking of everything. Pretending the 2 bikes fall off the truck...

But well, I think I loose my time here trying to share fun experience...

Cheers
I couldn't understand/hear the part about falling off the truck. Glad to hear no issues and sorry that I misunderstood. So that was you talking? Thanks for posting the pictures and sharing some info. with us. I'd appreciate anything more that you can provide as we are starved for information. Yes, some of us that were previously very enthusiastic and on the wait list for the new GS have become a little bit cynical given our concerns over the 'head shake' issue reported by several journalists. I'll keep an open mind though. So did either of your bikes on this trip experience this issue at all?

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Old 02-03-2013, 11:04 AM   #4777
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You were in Quebec city Yesterday ??? Cause it's me sitting on the bike ...

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Old 02-03-2013, 11:14 AM   #4778
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you misunderstood. i asked a question related to Ducati releasing a bike with a flaw that was probably known from the start, the same type of question we're posing, wondering, contemplating in regards to the reported head shake of the new GS. you go on to compare the Panigale to the GS in regards to their each bike's sales, and subsequently point to the 5yrs that the new GS has been in development. don't forget, that's a R&D team from the same manufacturer who's still trying get out from the "final drive" cloud that has hung over its head for some time now.
You are saying though that the Ducati had issues from launch, and comparing to the new GS saying that this may also have issues from launch. I am saying that I do not believe the "head shake" issue to be an issue at all, as the bike has been in development for 5 years, and the two or three incidents aren't of any concern as there are so many factors that could have caused it, and that any bike can have head shake or tankslappers in the wrong circumstances.

Re the final drive issue, this is old news, and has hardly affected the 12GS since the twin cam came out. I'm on my 4th GS, and am good friends with a BMW mechanic out of work; he has access to the statistics on recalls and FD issues and has said that FD issues on 2010 or new GS's are very rare
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:40 AM   #4779
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:41 AM   #4780
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Can the head shakers please start a new thread!!
Why.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:51 AM   #4781
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I don't see an issue that either can't or won't be clearly resolved.

San Jose's first one is mine.
No8 in Brussels is mine.

But no worries here. If problems arise with the front fork it won't happen with me. I won't drive it anywhere near its limits. Relax and take it easy... And in case of other problems it is for my dealer.
Worst case scenario I do have my 4 year warranty.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:52 AM   #4782
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No8 in Brussels is mine.

But no worries here. If problems arise with the front fork it won't happen with me. I won't drive it anywhere near its limits. Relax and take it easy... And in case of other problems it is for my dealer.
Worst case scenario I do have my 4 year warranty.
What 4 year warranty?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:55 AM   #4783
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In case someone wants this, I made a nice theme pack (for Win7/8) with 64 photos taken from various sources, all resized properly to 1920x1080 (and by properly I mean manual not batch work... choosing the proper cropping or even adding background when needed, for each one!). Most come from BMW own press material, so they were high resolution downsized, instead of lower resolution oversized.

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Old 02-03-2013, 11:55 AM   #4784
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Yes, and fwiw, a good friend an race companion of me was at the journo days in SA as well. Asked him specific about any head shakes with the new gs, and he never felt any problems whatsoever. I need to mention that he is a really trackday enthusiast and no off road rider at all.
He rode the wheels off the new baby on the paved roads, and the bike performed flawless .
Mine will be delivered on the last week of march, and the first trip is planned on the second week of April. The trip will include the German autobahn (top speed ), and the Sauerland hills
We should hold an early belgian owners meet. Mine arrives on march 15th. Germany is only planned for May. Top speed isn't really important here.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:01 PM   #4785
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Not sure what happened at 3:24
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