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Old 03-10-2013, 01:49 AM   #6256
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Here is an overview of the features on the Navigator IV that can be controlled from the handlebar: http://sdrv.ms/XyVmco
I can't get that link to work
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:53 AM   #6257
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I can't get that link to work
My tablet won't open it in the browser but just downloads it and then it can be opened. Curious what functions will be maintained on my garmin 660.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:40 AM   #6258
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Speaking of...test rode a K1600 today. Freakin phenomenal! I want one!
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:53 AM   #6259
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Old 03-10-2013, 04:50 AM   #6260
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What difference has a GSA in durability?
It's the same frame.
Only the rear loading rack was a bit different.
(concerning durability)
Out the crate stock for stock it crashes better with its huge engine bars. Spoke wheels are much stronger and the suspension can take larger bumps with its extra travel. None of it makes any difference on a paved road but if you go off road it all makes a lot of difference and can mean the difference between driving home or being on a trailer. Whether any of that translates to the LC models nobody knows but I for one am waiting to see.
Oh and yes you can either specify or go aftermarket for all the adventure stuff but if your going to spend all that cash why not get the adventure in the first place?
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:02 AM   #6261
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What difference has a GSA in durability?
It's the same frame.
Only the rear loading rack was a bit different.
(concerning durability)
I am not the expert, but the difference between my 08 gs and 10 gsa are numerous.

From another thread:

Adv has lower first gear ratio
Adv has stainless steel brake lines
Adv has taller suspension
Adv has really neato blue wheels and accents
Adv are just as fucking heavy
Adv has crash bars that work

Plus a standard 8.9 gal tank, taller windscreen and few other cosmetic things that I considered essitential. Wasn't there also something about the higher ratio on the 6th gear.

Anyway, El Paso to Salt Lake City in one day (roughly 14 hrs), with a sightseeing trip though the VLA west of Socorro, then up to Gallup for lunch, Moab for dinner and slept in my own bed that evening in SLC. No way in hell I could have done it on my gs and I tried on a couple of occasions. I also thought the GSA had a better rider geometry than the GS, I think that would also add up to durabiblity, don't you?
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:11 AM   #6262
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:26 AM   #6263
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Out the crate stock for stock it crashes better with its huge engine bars. Spoke wheels are much stronger and the suspension can take larger bumps with its extra travel. None of it makes any difference on a paved road but if you go off road it all makes a lot of difference and can mean the difference between driving home or being on a trailer. Whether any of that translates to the LC models nobody knows but I for one am waiting to see.
Oh and yes you can either specify or go aftermarket for all the adventure stuff but if your going to spend all that cash why not get the adventure in the first place?
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I am not the expert, but the difference between my 08 gs and 10 gsa are numerous.

From another thread:

Adv has lower first gear ratio
Adv has stainless steel brake lines
Adv has taller suspension
Adv has really neato blue wheels and accents
Adv are just as fucking heavy
Adv has crash bars that work

Plus a standard 8.9 gal tank, taller windscreen and few other cosmetic things that I considered essitential. Wasn't there also something about the higher ratio on the 6th gear.

Anyway, El Paso to Salt Lake City in one day (roughly 14 hrs), with a sightseeing trip though the VLA west of Socorro, then up to Gallup for lunch, Moab for dinner and slept in my own bed that evening in SLC. No way in hell I could have done it on my gs and I tried on a couple of occasions. I also thought the GSA had a better rider geometry than the GS, I think that would also add up to durabiblity, don't you?
One by one...

1) Engine bars easily (and more cheap than the price difference) installed on stock GS too. I prefer H&B. They crash fine (actually I haven't touched mine after TWO crashes with cars right on my right cylinder).

2) Spoke wheels. I have them. I'd like them black like GSA though.

3) Suspension extra. Just a little. Actually they had to have that to compensate for the extra load GSA has over GS. It doesn't mean that GSA is more "off road" than GS. At all.

4) I don't think GS and GSA has different gear ratio (they used too, esp. 1150 version) but I am pretty sure latest GS and GSA are same ratio (I could be wrong and too bored to check now).

5) Both have stainless steel brake lines OF COURSE (it is a GS not a Yamaha XT).

6) Colors are indeed nicer than GS I think (subjective thing). Still tripple-back filled the gap I wanted (no I don't have it, but anyway, it is there).

I'd say the difference between the two trips BigShow, are 2 years more experience with the model. Not a difference between models.

Things I love on GSA? In order of preference. Rear rack. Black spokes. Suspension (but WITH GS weight, else I don't care). Some colors.
I got way more extras with the price difference.

Why not the Adventure? I don't like all this fat thing with the extra weight. I don't need the extra fuel (there are things called canisters, people traveled the world before 33lt fuel tanks) I am 1m80 and 100Kg, GS is perfectly fine.
It's good that the model exists, fits a bit different needs, it is DIFFERENT not BETTER.

Yet we are on the wrong thread for this discussion.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:36 AM   #6264
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Max :-)
Thanks for posting. Maybe more detailed instructions from BMW are available? I assumed that you could plan a route purely with the wheel?
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:19 AM   #6265
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That would be a good feature, but no, you have to use your finger!
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:25 AM   #6266
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The wheel should be standard and able to control the HUD too.
Maybe next version (when they make the HUD color too).
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:40 AM   #6267
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That would be a good feature, but no, you have to use your finger!
That's not a problem, it isn't far to reach
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:38 AM   #6268
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The wheel should be standard and able to control the HUD too.
Maybe next version (when they make the HUD color too).
I'm very surprised to read that the rotary controller only operates the GPS.

On the K1600, you press Menu, then with the wheel you select the function that you want - as displayed on the screen - then you turn or push the wheel to your selection..

So my guess if the bike is ordered without GPS prep, it won't have the rotary dial.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:44 AM   #6269
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So my guess if the bike is ordered without GPS prep, it won't have the rotary dial.
True, this is exactly the case.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:38 AM   #6270
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True, this is exactly the case.
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