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Old 04-16-2013, 10:55 PM   #8491
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Just for s---s and giggles, we weighed my Dad's LC today. This was done on an analog bathroom scale, one wheel at a time, with the bike perfectly balanced on it. Front was 258, rear 255. Bike was full minus 78 miles at 45 MPG (US), so I figure 10lb more fuel could be added (1 2/3 gallons at 6lb/gal). Total curb weight is thus 523lb (give or take due to bathroom-scale accuracy).

This is a "Premium" trim level bike, cast wheels, ESA, heated grips, both seats + stock rear rack in place, and the OEM Nav IV mount (but without the Nav IV on it). No farkles added/removed. No bags.

My '11 TB with ESA, Touratech Nav IV setup, BMW crash bar (lower only), and laced wheels weighs 540 full of gas.

I think that crash bar is about 6 lb...so it seems to me for ESA bikes...the LC is lighter. My old bike, (a fully loaded non-ESA '08) was 512lb.

That "525lb" number they quote seems to be for an ESA bike...unless the ESA just doesn't weigh any more than the stock suspension. Bear in mind the LC does not have a front preload adjustment motor for its ESA, which I'm guessing are relatively heavy.

The hardest part of the whole deal was getting two GS' into the bathroom.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:31 PM   #8492
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Do it yourself. Ain't that hard.
Nope no time to do it myself.

All good called dealer to check on options that should be in & he got my service move to early next week & add all the new bits. :)
Note well the BMW LED headlight protector. Apparently 2 hours work for a BMW mechanic + engine bars & rad guards etc.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:35 PM   #8493
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Nav bar attachment for mount

Has anyone mounted anything on the sat nav mount bar? Looking for a sturdy clamp & arm to mount hand held radio. Beside the GPS.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:59 AM   #8494
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I suspect they should have given to you WITH the Akra...
The Akra is still at the dealer and they fit it Saturday, but if I could see the fitting instructions first, I was thinking of doing it myself if it looks easy. But Saturday is only 3 days away, so I'll wait.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:34 AM   #8495
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I pulled the cover off and checked. They wired directly to the battery on both the negative post and the positive post (so they must have pulled the battery out to get at the positive post).
Thanks for looking will do same

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:28 AM   #8496
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Thanks for this. It's good to have a real world verification of BMW's weight claims.

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Just for s---s and giggles, we weighed my Dad's LC today. This was done on an analog bathroom scale, one wheel at a time, with the bike perfectly balanced on it. Front was 258, rear 255. Bike was full minus 78 miles at 45 MPG (US), so I figure 10lb more fuel could be added (1 2/3 gallons at 6lb/gal). Total curb weight is thus 523lb (give or take due to bathroom-scale accuracy).

This is a "Premium" trim level bike, cast wheels, ESA, heated grips, both seats + stock rear rack in place, and the OEM Nav IV mount (but without the Nav IV on it). No farkles added/removed. No bags.

My '11 TB with ESA, Touratech Nav IV setup, BMW crash bar (lower only), and laced wheels weighs 540 full of gas.

I think that crash bar is about 6 lb...so it seems to me for ESA bikes...the LC is lighter. My old bike, (a fully loaded non-ESA '08) was 512lb.

That "525lb" number they quote seems to be for an ESA bike...unless the ESA just doesn't weigh any more than the stock suspension. Bear in mind the LC does not have a front preload adjustment motor for its ESA, which I'm guessing are relatively heavy.

The hardest part of the whole deal was getting two GS' into the bathroom.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:49 AM   #8497
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???
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877412

the k1600 /6 has similar starter and tons of problems, look on those forums
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:34 AM   #8498
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Thanks for the GS LC weigh-in

Did exactly the same thing with my 2010 Multistrada 1200S Touring, although the fuel tank was full.

Results: 260 lb F, 260 lb R : 520 lb total

So the GS LC is basically the exact weight of the Multi. Now if only the GS Touratech pannier rack wasn't so malformed (need to transfer the TT panniers from the Multi to the GS if I were to buy).

Thanks again.

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Just for s---s and giggles, we weighed my Dad's LC today. This was done on an analog bathroom scale, one wheel at a time, with the bike perfectly balanced on it. Front was 258, rear 255. Bike was full minus 78 miles at 45 MPG (US), so I figure 10lb more fuel could be added (1 2/3 gallons at 6lb/gal). Total curb weight is thus 523lb (give or take due to bathroom-scale accuracy).

This is a "Premium" trim level bike, cast wheels, ESA, heated grips, both seats + stock rear rack in place, and the OEM Nav IV mount (but without the Nav IV on it). No farkles added/removed. No bags.

My '11 TB with ESA, Touratech Nav IV setup, BMW crash bar (lower only), and laced wheels weighs 540 full of gas.

I think that crash bar is about 6 lb...so it seems to me for ESA bikes...the LC is lighter. My old bike, (a fully loaded non-ESA '08) was 512lb.

That "525lb" number they quote seems to be for an ESA bike...unless the ESA just doesn't weigh any more than the stock suspension. Bear in mind the LC does not have a front preload adjustment motor for its ESA, which I'm guessing are relatively heavy.

The hardest part of the whole deal was getting two GS' into the bathroom.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:18 PM   #8499
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:55 PM   #8500
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:24 PM   #8501
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The Akra is still at the dealer and they fit it Saturday, but if I could see the fitting instructions first, I was thinking of doing it myself if it looks easy. But Saturday is only 3 days away, so I'll wait.
It gives step by step diagrams and directions, very easy honest.You just need a couple of tools and some copper paste.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:19 PM   #8502
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Got a call from BMW dealer yesterday telling me they got a American spec available if I want it. (Mil sales here in Germany) Seems after I was not interested in buying one that would not be ready for delivery till June they did some calling around Germany.

It has the comfort and dynamic pkg. along with cruise and a silver can. I'm wondering if the BMW GPS is compatable with my XM sat antenna I use with my Zumo 550? I'm not hell bent on buying proprietary GPS units (learned lesson with my Vovlo) but the thumb wheel seems better than reaching up to mess with the zumo while on the go.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:39 AM   #8503
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Got a call from BMW dealer yesterday telling me they got a American spec available if I want it. (Mil sales here in Germany) Seems after I was not interested in buying one that would not be ready for delivery till June they did some calling around Germany.

It has the comfort and dynamic pkg. along with cruise and a silver can. I'm wondering if the BMW GPS is compatable with my XM sat antenna I use with my Zumo 550? I'm not hell bent on buying proprietary GPS units (learned lesson with my Vovlo) but the thumb wheel seems better than reaching up to mess with the zumo while on the go.
Sorry the BMW NavIV is the equivalent of the Zumo 660 and has no XM support at all.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:10 AM   #8504
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Just got a call from Hyperpro. They have my bike (GS LC with D-ESA) on loan for a few days to determine how to fit/develop their products (suspension, steering dampers) for it.

After riding it and doing their measurement they had some feedback you guys might find interesting:
  • They mentioned the standard shocks were the best they ever experienced on a GS. Normally these guys are not very impressed with the standard equipment (well, that is their business, you can't blame them) but in this case they thought differently.
  • They drove it, and were very impressed by the handling. Maybe the steering was a bit too light for their taste.
  • They felt Dynamic ESA worked very well. They tested it and the system is fast enough to change the settings of the rear suspension when the front hits a bump.
  • The Dynamic ESA allows replacing the springs. There was a discussion about this a while ago on this forum, but it just meassures the dampening and adjust accordingly. Apparently it doesn't assume anything about the characteristics of the spring itself.
  • But, as could be expected, they had some concerns about the repair-ability of the system. Much more complex, if it breaks you better go to a dealer.
  • The spring of the front suspension cannot be replaced separately, only as a complete unit.
  • A new mounting kit for the steering damper must be designed, as the old one does not fit.

All in all they were very enthusiastic about it, that's always nice to know.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:57 AM   #8505
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Great report from real experts. Thanks.
Fantastic that they were so honest. Really shows their professionalism (they don't need to feed cr*p).

EDIT: Actually now that I think of this, just your report made them #1 choice to at least one possible client. (for their steering dumper and/or for my current GS)
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