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Old 12-03-2011, 03:21 PM   #901
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Not exactly.
heard they just came back from Miramar-test-faciltiy. Much tweeking left to be done.

yesterday saw the R1200R with wethead. Of course, also with the drivetrain on the "wrong" side....
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:39 PM   #902
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Das Matti.

Or Mattias as in Icelandic.

When can i expect the Wasser Küller to be on my door steep for the high wind testing


Miramar Spain

I cant wait for the new one Matti.

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Old 12-03-2011, 06:39 PM   #903
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Not exactly.
heard they just came back from Miramar-test-faciltiy. Much tweeking left to be done.

yesterday saw the R1200R with wethead. Of course, also with the drivetrain on the "wrong" side....
DasMatti! Finally, thanks for some more news and who would dare to doubt anything the institution or "Der Wasserkopf" writes :-)
My guess would be press intro by 3rd quarter 2012. I could see BMW keep the camhead in production until the market has it's preferences sorted out.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:27 AM   #904
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[... ]I could see BMW keep the camhead in production until the market has it's preferences sorted out.
You're welcome.

They will definetly not produce the two bikes side by side. First the capacities in Berlin aren't capabale of that. And second this would mean that you can buy an old, and new bike from BMW (1200 and 1250). Never gonna happen!
But you might find the two bikes standing side by side at your local dealer.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:50 AM   #905
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1250....HHMMMM.....

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Old 12-04-2011, 11:30 AM   #906
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You're welcome.

They will definetly not produce the two bikes side by side. First the capacities in Berlin aren't capabale of that. And second this would mean that you can buy an old, and new bike from BMW (1200 and 1250). Never gonna happen!
But you might find the two bikes standing side by side at your local dealer.
OK, good point. VW did it with the Jetta, they offered a City Jetta for some markets and the new model for the Germans, not sure if it worked out well and they produced in different countries/factories...
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:13 PM   #907
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They will definetly not produce the two bikes side by side. First the capacities in Berlin aren't capabale of that.

And second this would mean that you can buy an old, and new bike from BMW (1200 and 1250). Never gonna happen!
Already has happened.
1100, 1150, and 1200 oilheads were built/available simultaneously.
1150 oilhead and 1200 hexhead were built/available simultaneously.
1200 hexhead and 1200 camhead were built/available simultaneously.


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Old 12-04-2011, 04:35 PM   #908
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Will the newly described Dynamic Damping Control be on the new water buffalo..ummm water head? Is this just an evolution of ESA or is it something different?
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:55 PM   #909
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Already has happened.
1100, 1150, and 1200 oilheads were built/available simultaneously.
1150 oilhead and 1200 hexhead were built/available simultaneously.
1200 hexhead and 1200 camhead were built/available simultaneously.
I'd say is highly unlikely they'll do it with limited production capacity, they could produce
the older "classic" GS somewhere in China and sell for an even higher profit
In the 80's BMW tried to phase out the Boxer but the flying brick didn't do the job, this time
the change is pretty minor I'd say, the Boxer is here to stay, I think at least.
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:11 PM   #910
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since the yamaha is not a threat, you think maybe they will do more beta testing using american fuels and riders, and avoid a repeat of previous launch "issues"?

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:58 PM   #911
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Already has happened.
1100, 1150, and 1200 oilheads were built/available simultaneously.
1150 oilhead and 1200 hexhead were built/available simultaneously.
1200 hexhead and 1200 camhead were built/available simultaneously.
Dealers buy the bikes, so of course you can find old/new models in their shop.
What is said is that on the official BMW-Motorrad website, you will not find old and new models for sale together, only new models.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:11 AM   #912
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Dealers buy the bikes, so of course you can find old/new models in their shop.
What is said is that on the official BMW-Motorrad website, you will not find old and new models for sale together, only new models.
At least in the US you could get the 1150GS Adv at the same time as the 1200GS. 05 and 06.

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Old 12-05-2011, 08:42 AM   #913
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since the yamaha is not a threat, you think maybe they will do more beta testing using american fuels and riders, and avoid a repeat of previous launch "issues"?

Rod
It is Triumph that has BMW concerned. The Tiger 800/800XC is a full on competetitor of the BMW and the upcoming Tiger Explorer will go after the R1200Gs/GSA. It's Suppose to have 138 hp. If I were BMW I'ds be scared, very scared. Next Triumph will bring a shaft drive ST that will eat the R1200RT for a light snack. As always.... YMMV!

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Old 12-05-2011, 09:21 AM   #914
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It is Triumph that has BMW concerned. The Tiger 800/800XC is a full on competetitor of the BMW and the upcoming Tiger Explorer will go after the R1200Gs/GSA. It's Suppose to have 138 hp. If I were BMW I'ds be scared, very scared. Next Triumph will bring a shaft drive ST that will eat the R1200RT for a light snack. As always.... YMMV!

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Any idea when the Explorer will be relesaed in the US? Looks great except for the cast wheels.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:37 AM   #915
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Any idea when the Explorer will be relesaed in the US? Looks great except for the cast wheels.
Spoke wheels must be coming soon...Maybe BMW style similar to the new Honda Crosstourer?
Not a thread as far as I'm concerned. Nice motorcycle but the image is not there and the engine is not a Boxer.
I highly doubt that the main GS community will start buying Triumph's no matter how good a copy they might be and the Explorer is a pretty blatant copy I'd say so why not buying the original :-)
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