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Old 05-28-2013, 07:46 PM   #9151
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Yep exactly the same wobble on mine. Wire wheels and only noticeable above 80km on a smooth road and in a straight line! Does not spook me and is not
even noticeable in the twisties just annoying with the cruise control on. I think it is the tyre but am going to suck in up for a few more thousand km (to over 5000km) to see if it irons out as the dealer has suggested.
I have the same issue Metzler, and spoked wheels. I was at dealer today and they test road, and confirmed the wobble, shake or whatever you call it. I can feel all the time just frequecy changes with speed. Dealers going to try new tire when available. I test road the demo bike non spoked wheels, with same tires no shake or wobble at all.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:11 PM   #9152
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Just picked up my 1200GSW on the weekend. Premium package with spoked wheels. I owned a R1200RT and a f800gs, both of which I sold to get the new Water Boxer. I now have about 400 miles on it with about 100 being on forest service roads. So far I would say its the best decision I ever made. Some comparisons:
My RT boxer didnt run anywhere near as smooth, have anywhere near the power of the new motor. The RT tranny was a clunker, but the new clutch and tranny are a dream. The old engine would lug and learch if i didnt have it geared just right, but the new motor pulls strong and smooth in all gears. Another big difference is the shaft drive. On the rt i had considerable lash at low speeds when i would blip the throttle, but i have absolutely none of that on the gsw. The gsw pulls so hard that you better keep a tight grip as it wants to pull away from you. Never had that issue on the RT. The suspension and ride is orders smoother and more responsive than the rt, which suprised me.
I really liked my f800gs, but there were several things about it that bothered me. The seat was very uncomfortable, the wind protection poor, even after i tried several aftermarket shields. The bike stood a bit too tall, and it felt like it had a high cg which made it feel heavy and a bit unstable. Perhaps my biggest issue with the f800gs was the light and squirrely steering, both on highway and in the dirt. The new gsw however has none of these issues. It feels much more stable both on road AND off. I have ridden the gsw over the same dirt roads as the f800gs and it is far more sure footed and stable. I have ridden over sandy, washboard roads, on the pegs at slow and high speeds and it was perfectly stable, even without knobby tires. The gsw, while heavier than the f800gs, has a lower cg which makes it feel more stable and maneuverable.
The new wind screen is just perfect...no more hunting around for aftermarket solutions. Seat is super comfortable, brakes are better, cruise contol is slick. Something else I really like is the sound! At cruising speeds its quiet, but when you get on the throttle it purrs like a Ferrari - very cool.
This is just the perfect bike in my opinion, for long hauls on the road and on dirt trails. Can you tell I love this bike?
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:51 PM   #9153
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Stability and light steering feel should not be confused. As shown here.


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Old 05-29-2013, 01:03 AM   #9154
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Stability and light steering feel should not be confused. As shown here.


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Great explanation ! Thanks, I have learned some more !

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Old 05-29-2013, 01:32 AM   #9155
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Getting a 1200 LC on Friday and I just wondered if the setting get stored if you turn the ignition on and off. I rode a KTM 1190 and the traction control and abs keep coming back on after you turn the bike on and off. My one has every conceivable extra except the cruise control. (not that I wanted it but that's all the brought into SA)
Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v37bzZl3-k
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:17 AM   #9156
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Great explanation ! Thanks, I have learned some more !Andre
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:05 AM   #9157
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Stability and light steering feel should not be confused. As shown here.

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Hi Jimmy,
You've cleared up that confusion with your typical easy to understand explanation. Thanks for that!

Now the question becomes:

What do you think of the overall 13GSW package?
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #9158
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Stability and light steering feel should not be confused. As shown here.


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Very professional video... :)
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #9159
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This is the best GS I have ridden in every aspect.

For some the throttle response in any mode may be too much and the "hard" settings for off road will encourage riders to do things that will break bikes or hurt bodies (it can get pretty stiff, fooling you about the weight of the bike). Yet if you ride it within reason the bike is really good. I hope the adventure is even better, I need the fuel range!
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:17 AM   #9160
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This is the best GS I have ridden in every aspect.

For some the throttle response in any mode may be too much and the "hard" settings for off road will encourage riders to do things that will break bikes or hurt bodies (it can get pretty stiff, fooling you about the weight of the bike). Yet if you ride it within reason the bike is really good. I hope the adventure is even better, I need the fuel range!
Thanks again.

I'm jumping into the 13GSW world and I plan to stay within my and the bikes ability because I'd just as soon not have to heal or fix either of those things.

Now to find out what that ability is without doing the damage I'd just as soon avoid.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:42 AM   #9161
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Yep exactly the same wobble on mine. Wire wheels and only noticeable above 80km on a smooth road and in a straight line! Does not spook me and is not
even noticeable in the twisties just annoying with the cruise control on. I think it is the tyre but am going to suck in up for a few more thousand km (to over 5000km) to see if it irons out as the dealer has suggested.
I picked up mine yesterday. Did 250 miles back from the dealership. I have the wire wheels and the thing is rock steady. No wobble, wibble, shimmy, or any head shake. And a rode a little (very little) hands free. The bike came with Conti Trail Attack 2 tires. Love it! I'm waiting for the break-in period to be over. Its tough to keep it below 5,000 RPMs.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:01 AM   #9162
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I picked up mine yesterday. Did 250 miles back from the dealership. I have the wire wheels and the thing is rock steady. No wobble, wibble, shimmy, or any head shake. And a rode a little (very little) hands free. The bike came with Conti Trail Attack 2 tires. Love it! I'm waiting for the break-in period to be over. Its tough to keep it below 5,000 RPMs.
My dealer has told me that they'd like me to play nice for the first hundred miles.
After that they want me to ride it like it's meant to be ridden with the only recommendations being to vary the RPM and to load the rings on the down shift as well as the up shift.

They've also told me that the 1000+ miles I'll likely have on the bike before the first service won't be a problem. (I'm zigging and zagging through some passes on day 2 through 4 of ownership.)
(The bike docks in New Jersey on June 1st so pick up looks to be June 22 or 29)
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:45 AM   #9163
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My dealer has told me that they'd like me to play nice for the first hundred miles.
After that they want me to ride it like it's meant to be ridden with the only recommendations being to vary the RPM and to load the rings on the down shift as well as the up shift.

They've also told me that the 1000+ miles I'll likely have on the bike before the first service won't be a problem. (I'm zigging and zagging through some passes on day 2 through 4 of ownership.)
(The bike docks in New Jersey on June 1st so pick up looks to be June 22 or 29)
Same slight wobble here just approaching 500 miles. ContiAttacks + spokes. I was figuring tire or balance issue. Seems to show up more on deceleration and/or planting it into turns. Cruise control (worth the price of the bike IMO) at 60 mph hands on hips, barely noticeable, but there nonetheless.

This bike is first rate. Whatever the wobble is, I'm not giving it back
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #9164
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Same slight wobble here just approaching 500 miles. ContiAttacks + spokes. I was figuring tire or balance issue. Seems to show up more on deceleration and/or planting it into turns. Cruise control (worth the price of the bike IMO) at 60 mph hands on hips, barely noticeable, but there nonetheless.

This bike is first rate. Whatever the wobble is, I'm not giving it back
Is the tire cupping?

I'm glad to hear that last part.


FWIW My V-Strom tires would cup and rather than re-balancing them 3 or 4 times throughout the tires life I went with the ceramic internal balancing beads.
The tires still cupped but the tire out of balance feel was gone.
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