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Old 06-03-2013, 08:17 PM   #9286
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:53 AM   #9287
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Something's up with your bike dude. I had 144mph on the autobahn (GPS verified) on mine last week with the panniers mounted, and it was rock solid.
At speed it is stable when not accelerating heavily. Did 125 mph With the 3 cases. I do think that it is my topcase causing the reduced stability.
The 144 seems a bit much, still haven't tested it out (132 mph is the most I ever did on mine, but I wsn't at 8krpm yet).
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:58 AM   #9288
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So if I have a new LC GS, with panniers mounted and a large MotoFizz bag filled with camping gear, panniers filled with personal gear, 130 lb wife on pillion seat, me 200 lbs, on the driver seat, both of us with full ATGATT. In other words, loaded to the gills, are we gonna pop wheelies everytime we give it gas??

Are we gonna have a problem??

Surly others have already been there, done this....
I ride solo with 3 full panniers. Under full acceleration it has the tendency to lift its front wheel, but TC intervenes to prevent such things. So you have nothing to worry as long as the TC is on.
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:30 AM   #9289
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I ride solo with 3 full panniers. Under full acceleration it has the tendency to lift its front wheel, but TC intervenes to prevent such things. So you have nothing to worry as long as the TC is on.
I agree with this. It is one of the great things about a GS that you can load em up 2 up and once rolling they are rock solid. Accelerating out of the apex with the weight just helps to plant the bike. And you can also start to use the rear break a bit more. Many of my mates say they do not enjoy 2 up touring but I quite like this change in dynamic.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:10 AM   #9290
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I agree with this. It is one of the great things about a GS that you can load em up 2 up and once rolling they are rock solid. Accelerating out of the apex with the weight just helps to plant the bike. And you can also start to use the rear break a bit more. Many of my mates say they do not enjoy 2 up touring but I quite like this change in dynamic.
Fwiw I've got two friends with '08 GSAs and both complain that their bikes start weaving at speeds of 80mph and higher when the metal panniers are attached.

Otoh my '99 11GS was rock solid at all speeds even with Jesses overloaded and a big Givi top box attached.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:19 AM   #9291
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So you're saying the K1200LTs have a wobble problem then?
Oh yes!

A problem they corrected by putting them out of production. At moderate and high speeds they were magnificient but at slow speeds they were a handful.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:22 AM   #9292
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Fwiw I've got two friends with '08 GSAs and both complain that their bikes start weaving at speeds of 80mph and higher when the metal panniers are attached.

Otoh my '99 11GS was rock solid at all speeds even with Jesses overloaded and a big Givi top box attached.
I did 125 mph quite a few times with my 3 panniers attached and it is very stable at that speed. Only under acceleration the front gets lighter with the panniers.
110mph with stong sidewind is also stable, but the trees along the street make it feel less pleasant (on a 2 lane street).
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:38 AM   #9293
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Fwiw I've got two friends with '08 GSAs and both complain that their bikes start weaving at speeds of 80mph and higher when the metal panniers are attached.

Otoh my '99 11GS was rock solid at all speeds even with Jesses overloaded and a big Givi top box attached.
Factory GSA Bags?

Most say that the GSA is more stable than the GS, hexhead and camhead versions.

Personally I never felt the R1200GS to be unstable unless riding next to the rough air of a big truck.

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Old 06-04-2013, 06:11 AM   #9294
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Factory GSA Bags?

Most say that the GSA is more stable than the GS, hexhead and camhead versions.

Personally I never felt the R1200GS to be unstable unless riding next to the rough air of a big truck.

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The factory metal boxes. Both have mentioned it to me at separate times and are speculating that it's the result of the wind's impact on the boxes at those speeds and the GSA's long suspension.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:21 AM   #9295
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The factory metal boxes. Both have mentioned it to me at separate times and are speculating that it's the result of the wind's impact on the boxes at those speeds and the GSA's long suspension.
I don't think I ever rode a GSA with factory bags. I would think if that were an issue it would be more common. What other bike mods, and were the riders similar in size?

Bags definitely have an effect on airflow, as do other factors.

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Old 06-04-2013, 07:50 AM   #9296
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Looking for a cell phone mount for my GS. What is the handlebar diameter?Anyone know?

They are huge that is for sure so wondering if going to have issues finding a mount that will actually work.

Thanks!

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NM..looks like 1 and 1/4 inches..
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:58 AM   #9297
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I don't think I ever rode a GSA with factory bags. I would think if that were an issue it would be more common. What other bike mods, and were the riders similar in size?

Bags definitely have an effect on airflow, as do other factors.

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Sorry, just remembered that one has the factory bags and the other has Jesses. They are pretty similar in size, around 5'8" and 5'9". Another possible factor could be the tires. They were both running TKC80s at the time when they first experienced it. Rode with one of them this past Saturday. He is now running the new Pirelli Scorpion Rallys and complained about it again after a stint on the highway and he's even added a steering damper. Will ask them next time I see them if they experienced the weave with more road oriented tires.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:01 AM   #9298
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Looking for a cell phone mount for my GS. What is the handlebar diameter?Anyone know?

They are huge that is for sure so wondering if going to have issues finding a mount that will actually work.

Thanks!

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NM..looks like 1 and 1/4 inches..
New GS has fatter center handlebar and thinner toward the edges.
Check it out.
You can definitely find a proper clamp and mount.
Google for RAM mounts, also I am sure both TT and Wunderlich should have already come up with something.
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New GS has fatter center handlebar and thinner toward the edges.
Check it out.
You can definitely find a proper clamp and mount.
Google for RAM mounts, also I am sure both TT and Wunderlich should have already come up with something.
Will check em out

Did notice it get's skinnier towards the grips so should make finding one easier. I just need to stick my cell there for easy access as I use it for my gps generally...

Now to remove that stupid GPS prep it came with...

Anyone done that? It looks like 4 simple screws to remove from the bar but not sure it I can just unplug the cable up there or have to root farther down under the fairing to disconnect...

May use it eventually but near 900 bucks is a steep price for a gps.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:57 PM   #9300
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Read the weight and speed limits on the stickers on the factory boxes.
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