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Old 08-09-2013, 01:20 PM   #10306
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...or just shift gears! This issue has been around a longggg time- and its always a certain rev range. Simple answer is to change gears so that you don't linger in that narrow range. Many can't seem to accept this solution, however. The aftermarket thanks you

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Old 08-09-2013, 01:41 PM   #10307
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...or just shift gears! This issue has been around a longggg time- and its always a certain rev range. Simple answer is to change gears so that you don't linger in that narrow range. Many can't seem to accept this solution, however. The aftermarket thanks you

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Yeah, I tried that, and you're right, dropping the RPM does seem to help a bit - problem is to make it totally disappear, you really have to lug the engine. The main culprit in our area is all the ethanol we have in the fuel. It makes the bike run even more lean. Apparently they use real fuel in Europe, realizing that burning food for fuel is crazy. So, it's likely than when your bike ships from Germany it is programmed to run on the most lean condition it can without surging. Here, the extra ethanol we have puts it over the edge. Ask RT owner with a 2006-2010 model how many times they had to replace their fuel strips due to ethanol in the fuel.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:42 PM   #10308
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...or just shift gears! This issue has been around a longggg time- and its always a certain rev range. Simple answer is to change gears so that you don't linger in that narrow range. Many can't seem to accept this solution, however. The aftermarket thanks you

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Old 08-09-2013, 01:46 PM   #10309
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Had a bad Shell experience on my F800GS where the engine had surges and flat spots through the rev range - nearly brought it in to the dealership for servicing but the issues went away immediately after refilling with BP... now I avoid Shell where possible with that bike. Never had any issues with any other fuel and I filled up with some dodgy sounding brands of petrol on my most recent trip around the Alps.

In retrospect the Shell incident may have been due to the underground tanks being very low so some foreign matter may (water?) could have gone into my bike. I've used them since out of necessity and not had further problems.
It is also a good idea to avoid gassing up at a station that has just had their load of fuel delivered. That stirs up all the crap on the bottom for a while.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:54 PM   #10310
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Yeah, I tried that, and you're right, dropping the RPM does seem to help a bit - problem is to make it totally disappear, you really have to lug the engine. The main culprit in our area is all the ethanol we have in the fuel. It makes the bike run even more lean. Apparently they use real fuel in Europe, realizing that burning food for fuel is crazy. So, it's likely than when your bike ships from Germany it is programmed to run on the most lean condition it can without surging. Here, the extra ethanol we have puts it over the edge. Ask RT owner with a 2006-2010 model how many times they had to replace their fuel strips due to ethanol in the fuel.
Ya, all the other manufacturers have figured out how to make fuel strips that work with ethanol, you'd think BMW would figure it out.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:05 PM   #10311
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Thought so. I always stick to BP or Shell, but if there's no other options, I'll only put 2 or 3 litres of the bad stuff in before I find another BP/ Shell station.
Maybe Shell is better on your side of the pond but in the US it can cause problems with our plastic fuel tanks.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:09 PM   #10312
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Maybe Shell is better on your side of the pond but in the US it can cause problems with our plastic fuel tanks.
I've not heard of any problems with it over here.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:50 PM   #10313
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You wind up learning to ride around it.
Sooo we buy a big $$$$ BMW and we need to learn to ride around a design flaw.
Does that really make sense?

Whenever I get the urge for a new LC I come to this thread, read a few post and the desire is gone. Thanks for all the help guys.

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Old 08-09-2013, 04:02 PM   #10314
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Maybe Shell is better on your side of the pond but in the US it can cause problems with our plastic fuel tanks.
You keep posting this in various threads...can you provide some substantiation?
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:03 PM   #10315
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Sooo we buy a big $$$$ BMW and we need to learn to ride around a design flaw.
Does that really make sense?

Whenever I get the urge for a new LC I come to this thread, read a few post and the desire is gone. Thanks for all the help guys.

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Old 08-09-2013, 04:27 PM   #10316
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Go to any forum read the posts and you will never buy anything!
I should have my wife do that right away!
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:42 PM   #10317
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:45 PM   #10318
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You keep posting this in various threads...can you provide some substantiation?
In 2012 we had problems with K1600s getting a white sludge in there tanks and the only common item was that they were filling up at Shell stations. Once the tanks were cleaned and they switched fuel the problems ceased. In the Yukon at Haines Junction the Shell station sells Benzene and it made many bikes run ruff until it was diluted out I had a LT then.
This year I have got poor quality gas twice once in Kansas and the other time was at Loves in Colorado Springs. Both times it was in the K1600 and the fuel economy dropped to about half of what I normally get. As a Motor Officer we do not always get to chose where we fuel up. Many times we start out with a full tank but do to the type of riding we may burn fuel at a faster rate then is expected.
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:02 AM   #10319
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I've not heard of any problems with it over here.
Any of the UK boys gone to Geoff at Hilltop with the LC yet? Be interested to see what a remap will give the new motor..
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:57 AM   #10320
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Sooo we buy a big $$$$ BMW and we need to learn to ride around a design flaw.
Does that really make sense?

Whenever I get the urge for a new LC I come to this thread, read a few post and the desire is gone. Thanks for all the help guys.

Regards, Paul
It is interesting to see how often that urge keeps coming back to you - they must have something that makes you want one deep down
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