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Old 11-17-2013, 08:40 AM   #11086
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sell?

So, when are you going to sell your 2013 so I can have it?
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:31 AM   #11087
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One of the short comings of the LED lights is that they don't get hot enough to melt snow. Riding home last night I had to stop every couple of miles to clear off the headlight and motolights, both of which are LED.
had a similar problem with the new traffic lights in town. led saved money except the lights were snow covered .had to add some kind of heater to keep the light warm.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:41 AM   #11088
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When the R100RS hit the market, everyone noticed and asked about the group of thin brown lines that ran across the fairing's headlight glass. I don't have anything official, so this could be incorrect, but at the time we were told (by a now defunct BMW shop in CT) that they were there in order to catch a little heat so that ice would not form in the glass.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:50 AM   #11089
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There is supposed to be a fan in the LED headlights. One purpose is to cool the junction point of the LED's themselves and another is the excess heat is blown at the front to melt snow and ice. The full description and pictures is in a link somewhere in the early days of this thread.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:28 PM   #11090
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There is supposed to be a fan in the LED headlights. One purpose is to cool the junction point of the LED's themselves and another is the excess heat is blown at the front to melt snow and ice. The full description and pictures is in a link somewhere in the early days of this thread.
It’s in the BMW press kit... although depending on the ambient temperature, amount of snow falling, and how long the LED headlamp is on (ie how warm it is), the circulation of warm air would be insufficient to clear snow which can build up in some conditions even on standard halogens... even after several hours of riding, the LED headlamp on my bike usually feels cold to the touch at the front.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:56 PM   #11091
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Hi, been here awhile just lookin. Anyway how you guys finding the seats on the new GSLC. I have an RT with all day seats which are great.

Just wondering if I will have to go that custom seat road again if I go for a GSLC. Only sat on one so far felt ok, I just about always ride 2 up so dose the rear set stack up for your passenger? probably more
inportant.

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Old 11-17-2013, 06:31 PM   #11092
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Wilbers makes replacement springs for the HP4 Dynamic suspension, so maybe they will make springs for the GS. Hell, the front shock on the GSW doesn't even have any preload adjustment at all. Seems pretty weird to me.
I am hearing some rumors of Wilbers making complete Dynamic replacement shocks for the GS(haven't found them on the interweb yet), and Touratech just debuted Dynamic shocks at the ECIMA 2013 show for the GSW. These may be options down the road, as it stands now, I spent way to much $ to also add in $3k-$4k in aftermarket shocks. Besides the stock stuff works very good. I'd just like to be able to ge a proper sag setting for me, and me with luggage. Oh well, my Dr. told me to go on a diet anyway.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:29 AM   #11093
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Iv'e got to admit, the while I find the GSW Dynamic ESA to work very good overall, the limit of only 3 options for preload is frustrating. Unless you weigh the ideal 175lbs, the icon settings are way off. Fully geared up, I'm about 230lbs. Put the preload in solo(one helmet) and it is very soft (no cases on the bike). Too soft. Handles pretty bad. So, I have to set icons to solo with luggage, which is a bit too much preload, but a lot better than the one helmet icon only. Is this BMW's way of telling me to go in a diet, and what if you're a lightweight and only way 140lbs? If we could tailor the icon settings to match rider weight, or the bike could do it itself. It has travel sensors, it could add preload when it realized that sag is too much. Maybe the aftermarket will help us out someday with custom springs.
No idea about the first, but I don know a bit about the second. Although I do weigh more than 140, about 145, I do think I know a bit about that. The preload is a bit higher then it should be, but that only creates a bit harder ride. If I want my comfort I just put it in comfort. It improves a bit with 2 cases and some luggage (not that it is bad). I only put it on 1+ luggage when it is all packed up with 3 cases, rolbag, ...
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:31 AM   #11094
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It seems like it would not be an impossibility for BMW to allow input of the riders "ready to ride weight" and then utilize the idiot icons ... if not directly by the rider (more convenient) at least by the dealer / computer connection.
Add another value? Asian, European or North American?
A bit like the clothing sizes.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:39 AM   #11095
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One of the short comings of the LED lights is that they don't get hot enough to melt snow. Riding home last night I had to stop every couple of miles to clear off the headlight and motolights, both of which are LED.
I try not to drive mind when it snows to much. And over here that shouldn't be to much of a problem.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:54 AM   #11096
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There is supposed to be a fan in the LED headlights. One purpose is to cool the junction point of the LED's themselves and another is the excess heat is blown at the front to melt snow and ice. The full description and pictures is in a link somewhere in the early days of this thread.
Well, the temperature was right at 32 degrees. If the heat system won't melt snow off the lights right at freezing then it won't work at all which has been my experience. Generally I don't ride when there is snow but sometimes it starts snowing late in the day after I have ridden to work. Because of where I live I can usually get most of the way home before I have to stop and put the chains on.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:13 AM   #11097
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Well, the temperature was right at 32 degrees. If the heat system won't melt snow off the lights right at freezing then it won't work at all which has been my experience. Generally I don't ride when there is snow but sometimes it starts snowing late in the day after I have ridden to work. Because of where I live I can usually get most of the way home before I have to stop and put the chains on.
Thing is, many of us use headlight protection. Even traditional headlights wont heat enough to keep the ice/snow build-up off the protector.

If the weather is that bad you shouldn't be riding at night.

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Old 11-18-2013, 03:26 PM   #11098
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Hi, been here awhile just lookin. Anyway how you guys finding the seats on the new GSLC. I have an RT with all day seats which are great.

Just wondering if I will have to go that custom seat road again if I go for a GSLC. Only sat on one so far felt ok, I just about always ride 2 up so dose the rear set stack up for your passenger? probably more
inportant.

Thanks in advance
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Hard to say, everyone’s bottom is unique... I find the seat very firm, but somehow it doesn’t cause me any issues and I can ride it for several hours without discomfort. I’ve been on all day rides and ended the day no worse for wear than when I started.

For reference, I also have an F800GS with both the standard and comfort seats - on the standard seat I need to get off the bike after an hour, for the comfort seat, maybe 2 hours. Within a month of returning from a 3000 mile trip around the Alps last summer I put my deposit on the 1200 and only use my 800 for shorter journeys or when I ride rough trails.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:12 PM   #11099
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Hi, been here awhile just lookin. Anyway how you guys finding the seats on the new GSLC. I have an RT with all day seats which are great. Just wondering if I will have to go that custom seat road again if I go for a GSLC. Only sat on one so far felt ok, I just about always ride 2 up so dose the rear set stack up for your passenger? probably more
inportant.
Thanks in advance
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I haven't carried passengers yet, so can't say anything about the passenger seat, although it does seem large and well shaped to hold the passenger in place.

The stock front seat is pretty good. I'm usually pretty sensitive to seat comfort, and it has been fine for several 1000 mile weekends and one 6 day trip of 2500 miles so far. The seat is kind of soft, so I'm not sure how well the foam will hold up long-term, but its great so far.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:42 PM   #11100
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I haven't carried passengers yet, so can't say anything about the passenger seat, although it does seem large and well shaped to hold the passenger in place.

The stock front seat is pretty good. I'm usually pretty sensitive to seat comfort, and it has been fine for several 1000 mile weekends and one 6 day trip of 2500 miles so far. The seat is kind of soft, so I'm not sure how well the foam will hold up long-term, but its great so far.
My wife likes the passenger accommodations much better on the stock Wasserboxer seat than the Corbin I had on my '04 Multistrada.
I on the other hand miss the Corbin I had on the Multi. I have the high seat and the stock seat for the GS. The high seat is OK, but still not all day comfortable for me. I'll be sending the stock seat out over the winter to be shaped by one of the Mayers and then sell the high seat.
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