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Old 01-06-2012, 11:50 PM   #1306
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:04 AM   #1307
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This is a measuring device. It measures how much travel you use at the moment.
That's what I was thinking, that it looked like a DAQ (Data AcQuisition) device I mean. An arm hooked to a quadrature rotary encoder, or maybe a potentiometer similar to a TPS (Throttle Position Sensor).

A quadrature encoder is more accurate and has a much longer service life than a potentiometer, especially in this suspension arm appplication. But a pot is less expensive and requires less processing power.


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Old 01-07-2012, 12:47 AM   #1308
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BMW wastes the potential of the CAN by transmitting such mundane information. Think of what telephone lines have carried, news of war, peace, birth and death. What's BMW put on it, headlight condition, turn signals etc. How maudlin.
Good point. But maybe there isn't much of significance going on in a vehicle?

As far as what's possible to do with a 1Mbps data bus, I suppose that like any technology, it only rises to the needs of the end user, or the accounting department.




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Old 01-07-2012, 09:27 AM   #1309
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I have not read this before.

According to Bike Ohlins is working with BMW on the electronic suspension for the new water cooled GS
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:32 AM   #1310
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It's strange the GS grew bigger and bigger, isn't it?
With cars the engine size is no longer important with downsizing happening more and more.
Weight goes up because of safety stuff but you could argue there could be room for an 800cc Boxer in the lineup
once the big GS get's to 1400cc what will happen...
Well how will that happen. If it is smaller jugs, shorter stroke, then you need a new block, BIG EXPENSE

BMW has a 800 cc GS, just not a boxer.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:00 AM   #1311
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You mean a completely separate LC Boxer engine with lets say 800cc and ~80hp would be too expensive?
- back to the roots, no gimmicks, just a real dual sports.

Not this but still looks great

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Old 01-07-2012, 12:52 PM   #1312
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Looks pretty similiar to the oilhead to me

Cannot tell much difference in this photo. I'd like to ride one though to see if it feels different. Nobody ever bought a GS12 for its looks unless they had been drinking heavily. It's all function IMHO.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #1313
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Is one. Its called the HP2 but a 1200.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:01 PM   #1314
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Cannot tell much difference in this photo. I'd like to ride one though to see if it feels different. Nobody ever bought a GS12 for its looks unless they had been drinking heavily. It's all function IMHO.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #1315
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You mean a completely separate LC Boxer engine with lets say 800cc and ~80hp would be too expensive?
Probably. The K75 was loved by many but BMW killed it. Why? Because it cost about the same to make as the K100. The buying public, however, thought that with 25% less cylinders it should cost 25% less.

I suspect an R80 would cost BMW almost as much to make as an R1200. If so, they wouldn't be able to price it right for both reasonable sales and reasonable profit.

I'd like an R90, myself
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:13 PM   #1316
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:11 PM   #1317
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Jugs seem to be higher up than on the air-cooled boxer. Exhaust at bottom, not front. Looks good to me, but won't be buying for a while, certainly not from the first year's production.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:50 PM   #1318
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It looks a little err ahh 'Husky'. . .

Really enjoying my 2010 GS too much to care right now, though I suspect in a few years I will be drinking from the liquid cooled kool aid, so to speak.
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Old 01-07-2012, 03:56 PM   #1319
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Looks like a 'tarts handbag'.........!

That's what makes them special, function over form. My favourite so far would be the 1100GS with it's long funky 'Maur Sluker'(anteater beak)

Any GS looks much, much better after having justy crossed a muddy ploughed field, muddier the better.

Keep em dirty and they all look good.

Wasserkopf looks ok though but I won't be buying one for a long while as I like my 'GSA30' too much.

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Old 01-07-2012, 04:18 PM   #1320
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With the pressures BMW feels they need to succumb to, I see a lot of carry-over parts. Frame in general, though it is modified with its subframe, and despite the L/R switch of the driveshaft, it (for the moment) looks like it's the same recipe of the version which debuted in 2005.
I understand the financial realities of a new engine vs. investment in other areas of the bike though. It doesn't appear to have been considered as a whole, but as the new engine plus various bits. Surfacing on forward engine castings and the exhaust orientation look like ass.

So now we have a BMW that wants to be a Multistrada. I don't know if that's cause for celebration. However, I would have never considered a GS until I rode one. . . .
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