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Old 01-22-2013, 07:05 AM   #871
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Freakin Sweet Brat Bro
you got two nice rare vehicals there!
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:43 PM   #872
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The only things that are missing on the Brat are the rear seats. But they've probably been outlawed in most places.

BWSwamper,

I think that is right on the money. The 12" opens up a tremendous selection of tires. The sprocket carrier measures right at 3 and 7/8 inches, so a 4" opening would work. The original wheel is a 9x9, so there would be an extra 1/2 inch on both sides. The swing arm will easily accommodate that.

The big issue for most owners will be the price. A Douglas 10x10 with 5+5 offset already exists and could more easily be modified to fit our needs. I think that the 12x10 would be a new project for them and the costs would rise correspondingly. Perhaps they could give you a price for both iterations.

epix1718,

What does the kick starter do? (if it is still there) Is it just flopping around or it doesn't return to position?

This is the parts breakdown but it would help to know the symptoms:

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...788abb/starter

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Old 01-23-2013, 06:41 AM   #873
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Rims on the brain...

Dang, I had it in my mind that the factory rear wheel was 9 diameter by 10 width. I haven't had a wheel off the bike since I got it, so never put a tape on it.

So, I guess I had better ask, what are the tire widths which are appropriate for the 10 inch rim width? I've seen recommendations that the tire be 2 to 4 inches wider than the rim. How strict is that requirement in practice?

I am interested in this group buy approach to rims, but I'm not sure I am qualified to head it up. DWT's 24 unit minimum doesn't seem that difficult to meet given the amount of discussion of the issue gets on this and other forums.

Maybe we ought to do a rough count of demand on this board. I'd be in for two or three, without a second thought. When I called DWT before I got the info from this forum, they seemed to be indicating a FOB price of less than $120 per unit for a custom sized wheel. That seems fair to me for a bolt on ready aluminum wheel.

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Old 01-23-2013, 01:23 PM   #874
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Maybe we ought to do a rough count of demand on this board. .
i'd have to see a price on shipping as i live in newfoundland, canada.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:54 PM   #875
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The only things that are missing on the Brat are the rear seats. But they've probably been outlawed in most places.

epix1718,

What does the kick starter do? (if it is still there) Is it just flopping around or it doesn't return to position?

This is the parts breakdown but it would help to know the symptoms:

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...788abb/starter

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Thanks for the link, I found out I am missing part #8 in that diagram (kick gear) so ordered one along with the circlip and some washers.

I do still have the jump seats for the Brat, just removed for the winter, bike wouldn't fit in with the seats in also I bet :(
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:50 PM   #876
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12x8 Rim on Rear?

Would a 12x8 rim work on the rear? I found an existing DWT wheel in 12x8 4+4 4/110, which looks like a candiate for drilling a new set of 4/125 holes.

That rim should still take a 12 wide tire, but how would handling be expected to change relative to the stock tire with the taller (more flexible) sidewall?

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Old 01-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #877
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Rear Rims

BWSwamper..
I would be in for 1 at least..what grade DWT are they quoting?? The .190 model or ??
looks like they have 4 grades of spun Alum. wheels..at least..
Anybody post in the Yahoo group for those that might not look in here often??
Anyone know if you can go 3" wider than an ATV rim??
(I have a spare front 12" rim and I can easily make an adapter plate to bolt to existing holes and reduce down to desired 4/125x4" add a matching shim plate ..I want to still try running a 9" back just to see if it handles better on twisty trails or you can get nice dune tires in that size also...)

MR.Bigwheel,
Do I remember you saying your running a 26 or 27 inch front tire x 9" ?? do you like??

To ALL;
Has anyone been to or have ridden in the Desert 100 in Eastern Wa.??
or the poker run day before?
The whole weekend looks like good fun, anyone interested in going in April and doing the 50 mile desert/family poker run with several hundred others so we can represent the forgotten Bigwheel ??
OR do the 80 mile ironman??
( I could never handle the main race from the vids I see..but would like to watch..)
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:21 AM   #878
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I'm interested in the rear wheel group buy.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:14 AM   #879
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I am also interested in group buy. I have not really looked at 12" tires, even though there are lots choices, what are the top pics that have the right profile and what sizes 23", 24"? 11" or 12" wide?
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:50 PM   #880
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BW rear rims

Odd this comes up here as I have also been working on rims choices...I purchased a 8x8 rim from Douglas as it was the only thing they seem to have that is centered...so they told me..I was going to drill out the 4/125 into it but the hub hole is too small to allow the hub to go thru..so I tried on my drill press with an expensive hole saw...no luck yet..when I get it out to 4"s
I can drill the 4/125 ...but it will be close so not sure if it will work..I was doing this just to get some shiny rims on a couple of the bw's...
Douglas made wheels that would fit for several years...I still have one of them..4/125 yeap...chrome and shiny..and aluminum...
...I have ran 25" tires on the rear but prefer the 23" ...I know I don't want to go to a 26 or 27..
Anybody know of any wheels that are already "centered" as we could drill out the 4/125
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:00 PM   #881
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Hey again,

I used a 4 1/16" hole for the center of the rim. But I recall using a 4" hole saw once before.

I wish I could produce a small run of rims for the BW, but I don't think that is possible. I don't work in the machine shop, so when I get stuff made at work I need to jump though a few hoops and buy the guys donuts or something. It is a union shop and I am not in it, but I can get some things done a couple times a year.

But, I could probably get some more centers cut out. They use a water jet and it only takes a few minute to cut the aluminum.

As long as we are talking about wheels, does anyone know if a 10" wide tire would fit on a 9" wide rim?

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it would the bw's came with a 11"...first ones came with a 12"er
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:59 PM   #882
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:48 PM   #883
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Zero Offset Rims from DWT

Here is a link to the 12x8 4+4 rims from DWT I referenced earlier. The dealer said they could order 12x10 5+5 in the same wheel. These are Rhino pattern 4/110. It was unclear whether these were "blue" or "red" label DWT wheels.

http://www.sidebysidesports.com/do112rirhra.html

DWT also has a 10x10 5+5 with the "wrong" bolt hole pattern. They have told two of us that they could do a run with the 4/125 pattern if the order was for 24 units. The price was around $105 each (before shipping). The rep I spoke with mentioned that they had made them in the past as Six Pepper mentioned.

My question has to do with the rim width. If the guidelines are for the tire to be 2 to 4 inches wider than the rim, then it seems to me that an 8 inch wide rim would be better since it could handle everything up to a 12 wide tire, and still be "right" for an 11 or even a 10 wide tire.

Sure would be nice to just convince DWT to do a run. I can call them back on Monday and get more details, unless someone with more technical knowledge would like to make the contact.

Cliff, the Carlisle 489 comes in the 24x11-12 and 23x10-12. I think several people are running Carlisle 489s as BW fronts in 25x8-12.

http://www.carlisletirestore.com/489.htm

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Old 01-26-2013, 05:02 PM   #884
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:33 AM   #885
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BWSwamper,

I have a 24x11-10 tire that is enroute to me right now that will be mounted on the Shercoman-modded wheel. I will post the results as soon as possible. The ten inch wheel may be the cure, given the realistic budget options that most face.

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