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View Results: Which one?
R3 67 42.14%
Ninja 300 24 15.09%
CBR300R 18 11.32%
Obligatory Duke 390 vote 50 31.45%
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:10 AM   #1
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2015 R3 vs. Ninja 300 vs. CBR300R

You want a small 300cc Japanese sportbike. It doesn't matter your reason. Which are you taking all things being somewhat equal?





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Old 10-17-2014, 10:15 AM   #2
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Too soon to know for sure. No ride reports on the R3 yet.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:58 PM   #3
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In terms of power:weight ratio, can any of the first three match the KTM?

No, I didn't think so.

It's not always the prime reason to buy a bike but in this sector, I would expect real world performance to be quite a big factor. It remains to be seen if the R3 has other qualities that may make it more desirable.

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Old 10-17-2014, 04:29 PM   #4
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In terms of power:weight ratio, can any of the first three match the KTM?

No, I didn't think so.

It's not always the prime reason to buy a bike but in this sector, I would expect real world performance to be quite a big factor. It remains to be seen if the R3 has other qualities that may make it more desirable.

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These bikes are for 2 types of people. Commuters, and learners.
KTM fails as a commuter because it's a KTM. Fails as a learner as it may intimidate noobs, since it's the most hard-edged of the 300s.

It will be a boutique bike for the 5 screwballs who want the highest spec gutless bike they can get their hands on.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:56 PM   #5
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KTM RC390

340 lb wet
43 hp @ 9500 rpm
26 ft·lb @ 7250 rpm
10,500 max rpm
7.9 lb per hp
10L tank

Yamaha YZF-R3

368 lb wet
42 hp @ 10,750 rpm
22 ft·lb @ 9,000 rpm
12,500 max rpm
8.7 lb per hp
14L tank
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:00 PM   #6
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I knew I shouldn't have been commuting on KTMs from 2002 till 2013.

Screwballs? You & tosser should seek therapy.
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:19 PM   #7
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It will be a boutique bike for the 5 screwballs who want the highest spec gutless bike they can get their hands on.


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Old 10-17-2014, 06:32 PM   #8
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You want a small 300cc Japanese sportbike. It doesn't matter your reason. Which are you taking all things being somewhat equal?
Equal?

I'd prefer a better bike than what I've seen of the Ninja 250.

The KTM is like a Unicorn here in the USA. Nobody has ever seen one.

Comparing the pair of 300's and the 320, to the Duke 390 isn't fair or realistic, for the displacement advantage alone!

Duke 390 = 373cc
Yam 320 = 321cc
Ninja 300 = 296cc
CBR300 = 286cc

The 52cc difference between the KTM and Yamaha is a big deal in engines this small. The 87cc advantage over the Honda is almost 1/3 of the Honda's displacement!

I suspect the 3 Jap bikes ARE pretty equal, quality-wise, with a power advantage going to the twins (and again, displacement).
I'm disappointed that we have to buy a bike with twice the engine as these "beginner bikes" to get the quality you'd want from a bike you plan to keep for several years. I vote KTM 390, even though there's no such thing.
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:36 PM   #9
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These bikes are for 2 types of people. Commuters, and learners.
KTM fails as a commuter because it's a KTM. Fails as a learner as it may intimidate noobs, since it's the most hard-edged of the 300s.

It will be a boutique bike for the 5 screwballs who want the highest spec gutless bike they can get their hands on.
The KTM is probably the only one in the crowd that's not a throw-away bike. No need for chain maintenance on the other 3. The bike won't outlast it.
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:44 PM   #10
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I'm on my second drive set on the Ninja 300 and I'm amazed I've had the patience to keep riding it. The latest after several bearing failures is fairing stress cracks popping up and paint cracking at the frame welds. I'll run it from today at 14,500 miles to maybe 25k and be lucky to suffer it that long.

I agree, not enough quality to really ride these for more than 2-3 years.

The engine is stronger than it needs to be, and just plain works, the supporting parts are mopedish/Kmart bicycle in quality.

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Old 10-17-2014, 08:15 PM   #11
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equal?

I vote ktm 390, even though there's no such thing.
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:55 PM   #12
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??? local ktm dealer says he'll have rc390's in by march, and is taking preorders
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??? local ktm dealer says he'll have rc390's in by march, and is taking preorders
That is the first delivery date I've heard anywhere.
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Old 10-18-2014, 09:52 AM   #15
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Wrong decal, can not commute. Total fail.



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