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Old 08-20-2011, 07:37 AM   #76
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Hoping for the best on the engine. Intake and exhaust ports were blocked off with blank plates and rubber at the time of disassembly. This was a running bike stripped down for paint. Don't think it was broken. The engine itself is one big lump. Appears as if it has never been opened. All fasteners are unmolested. Someone took a great deal of care taking it all apart. Everything is marked and labeled. I can hope but who knows until I open it up a bit more....

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Mine has a number of improper fasteners, miss matched here and there.
I bought a "complete shop & rebuild maunual" on CD via EBay for $20 + some odd bucks. . When I received it , it was actually a copy of a riders manual and did not go into much technical info. on the mechanics of the machine. I later found the same manual free on the internet. So beware of that scam.
The "Zundapp Fool" will be of great assisstance on your project. He has a real love for the EL Models and has one or two of them. They are the "Holy Grail" of KS601's in his opinion due to their rarity. He has a lot of used spare's although not cheap....but he will deal a little bit. He seems to be a real nice guy and is a great source of information.
You will be WAY ahead of the game if the intact engine is usable as is. Hopefully moisture didn't get to anything. Can't wait to see some photos!
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:14 AM   #77
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Got an order into James (the original fool). It's hotter than hell in Texas so I'm being patient.
No doubt he is guru and is dedicated to the marque.
The frame is powdercoated, the rear wheel swingarm, shocks and engine installed.
The front end is all there as a unit, just as it was slipped out of the neck decades ago.
Tires have air in them.The seller has misplaced the box with the top fork (triple tree).
The bike was disassembled in 1974, and he has some some long term memory problems.
Got the sheet metal and exhaust home this week (they were misplaced) but the big lump is still in the sellers shed.
I want to roll this into my garage so I'm waiting for the replacement parts.

I've been cleaning up the gas tank, checking out the carbs, controls, drive shaft etc. and doing all the research I can in the meantime.
Getting quite the education. Zundapp couldn't compete in the market with BMW's low price.
Pretty excited about it all right now, this could be the last bike in the stable.
Not that I won't acquire more but it could be the last to go when I'm too old to roll.

I'm hoping this Danish ACAP will be a good match.



I should do a good job of documenting this bike, maybe I'll get some photos of the parts I have and slip up to the farm to get some shots of the big lumps this weekend.



Here's a link to what I'm looking at, mines all black with gold pinstripes and just the right amount of dull pitted chrome..... this is not the bike.

http://www.zundappfool.com/images/60..._Elastic_a.jpg


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Old 08-20-2011, 08:56 PM   #78
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Got an order into James (the original fool). It's hotter than hell in Texas so I'm being patient.
No doubt he is guru and is dedicated to the marque.
The frame is powdercoated, the rear wheel swingarm, shocks and engine installed.
The front end is all there as a unit, just as it was slipped out of the neck decades ago.
Tires have air in them.The seller has misplaced the box with the top fork (triple tree).
The bike was disassembled in 1974, and he has some some long term memory problems.
Got the sheet metal and exhaust home this week (they were misplaced) but the big lump is still in the sellers shed.
I want to roll this into my garage so I'm waiting for the replacement parts.

I've been cleaning up the gas tank, checking out the carbs, controls, drive shaft etc. and doing all the research I can in the meantime.
Getting quite the education. Zundapp couldn't compete in the market with BMW's low price.
Pretty excited about it all right now, this could be the last bike in the stable.
Not that I won't acquire more but it could be the last to go when I'm too old to roll.

I'm hoping this Danish ACAP will be a good match.



I should do a good job of documenting this bike, maybe I'll get some photos of the parts I have and slip up to the farm to get some shots of the big lumps this weekend.



Here's a link to what I'm looking at, mines all black with gold pinstripes and just the right amount of dull pitted chrome..... this is not the bike.

http://www.zundappfool.com/images/60..._Elastic_a.jpg


Don in Nipomo
Wow, that sidecar will be a wonderful fit for the EL.
I have a Jupiter sidecar with a scratch built 1000cc BMW Airhead attached, but the Jupiter looks a bit too modern for the KS601.

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Old 08-20-2011, 09:27 PM   #79
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Seen your rigs, followed your builds along the way. Your airhead is superb.
You were one of the inspirations from my first build, the "Greevorex".





What have you heard about the performance of the KS 601s?
I'm hoping to be surprised, James says these were the hares compared to the tortoise BMWs of the time.


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Old 08-23-2011, 06:39 PM   #80
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Took a few photos, wish they turned out a bit better, but this should give you an idea what I'm working with.

















Hows that for crazy?

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Old 08-23-2011, 06:55 PM   #81
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I'm lov'in it! Great Find. Very clean looking goodies there!

How did you ever come across this bike?

What are those?


Oh, there they are...an EL only frame "spat".....



But mine has a much better "patina" (aka rust)
Mine was parked for unknown reasons....I'm sure I'll eventually find out why.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:02 PM   #82
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I need a top triple tree and the outer races (cones) and a bunch of little hardware that button the front end up.
The thing is a beast to move around with one wheel.


It's too hot in Texas for James to get out to the shop....

Patience, patience.


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Old 08-23-2011, 07:58 PM   #83
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I'm lov'in it! Great Find. Very clean looking goodies there!

How did you ever come across this bike?







But mine has a much better "patina" (aka rust)

Craigslist, Friday night 2 weeks ago..... $700

Mine has quite a bit of patina, all the chrome is dull or pitted. I like it. Got some history showing.
I'll be rubbing out the tank with the barespots exposed, then shooting clear.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:18 PM   #84
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Craigslist, Friday night 2 weeks ago..... $700

Mine has quite a bit of patina, all the chrome is dull or pitted. I like it. Got some history showing.
I'll be rubbing out the tank with the barespots exposed, then shooting clear.
Primer Nationals.

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Good Lord...$700.00........The sheet metal alone is worth more than that.
Parted out (God forbid) the pieces would bring thousands.
I paid a more hefty sum for mine but for some reason I just had to have it.
As they say "a sucker born every minute"
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:29 PM   #85
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Or a Zundapp Fool is born every once in a while.....


Can you imagine this with a sidecar. The bike must weigh 600+ lbs.
This is going to be great!

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Old 08-24-2011, 08:03 PM   #86
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That was easy, looking real clean. No contamination, environment was well sealed and well oiled.....no rust or corrosion visible.
Well maybe a little bit on the streetside exhaust valve... just surface scale. I hope!
Little carbon trapped on the untrimmed (overlapping) head gasket lips.
Sprayed a little weasel piss (liquidwrench) into the cylinders.I will attempt to loosen the jugs tomorrow.

Lost the coil on my GEO Metro Convertible this evening... got to get on that tomorrow also!

















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Yesterday didn't happen, too worn out studying Zundapp offerings on the internet. Metro is still dead in the drive.
I did clean the heads up at work in the brand new green parts washer... I can do better in a sink with Dove and a toothbrush!
It was OK but I miss the old carcinogenic solvents... so much more effective.

I came home today with every intention of buttoning the heads back up and pouring a cup of PB Blaster in each spark plug hole.
Letting it soak a while before attempting any movement and doing some damage.

It was warm today in Nipomo so first thing I clicked the gearshift around a bit to see if I could engage and disengage some gears. 1,N,2,3,4.
Seemed good and the more I did it the easier the snatches became! More defined. Repeatable. XLNT.

Went about spraying a bit more Liquid Wrench into the bores and decided to give each piston a solid whack with a hardwood dowel to shock the fluid into the bores.
First whack I could see the LW jump a bit, like a sonic wave. Went to the other side and did the same. The pistons began to stroke inwards. On their own. Wow.
Gave the kickstart a gentle push thru and it revealed two shiny bores with little or no scoring.
Bottom dead center, spray, top dead center, wipe, repeat. Twice. Three times. Four.
I'm gonna put the heads back on tommorrow and do a compression test.

I is one happy camper this evening, great start to the weekend.


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Yesterday didn't happen, too worn out studying Zundapp offerings on the internet. Mero is still dead in the drive.
I did clean the heads up at work in the brand new green parts washer... I can do better in a sink with Dove and a toothbrush!
It was OK but I miss the old carcinogenic solvents... so much more effective.

I came home today with every intention of buttoning the heads back up and poring a cup of PB Blaster in each spark plug hole.
Letting it soak a while before attempting any movement and doing some damage.

It was warm today in Nipomo so first thing I clicked the gearshift around a bit to see if I could engage and disengage some gears. 1,N,2,3,4.
Seemed good and the more I did it the easier the snatches became! More defined. Repeatable. XLNT.

Went about spraying a bit more Liquid Wrench into the bores and decided to give each piston a solid whack with a hardwood dowel to shock the fluid into the bores.
First whack I could see the LW jump a bit, like a sonic wave. Went to the other side and did the same. The pistons began to stroke inwards. On their own. Wow.
Gave the kickstart a gentle push thru and it revealed two shiny bores with little or no scoring.
Bottom dead center, spray, top dead center, wipe, repeat. Twice. Three times. Four.
I'm gonna put the heads back on tommorrow and do a compression test.

I is one happy camper this evening, great start to the weekend.


Don in Nipomo

...I'm loving it. Keep it coming.
I ended up working 91 hours this past week and my "Zundapp working" time isn't feasable. I hoped to pull my top end off this weekend to see if my 4 month oil soak has freed up the pistons......too exhausted to think about tearing into things as I will likely do another 14 hour per day gig this coming week too.
I will just have to enjoy watching you work on yours for now.
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...I'm loving it. Keep it coming.
I ended up working 91 hours this past week and my "Zundapp working" time isn't feasable. I hoped to pull my top end off this weekend to see if my 4 month oil soak has freed up the pistons......too exhausted to think about tearing into things as I will likely do another 14 hour per day gig this coming week too.
I will just have to enjoy watching you work on yours for now.

91 hours... and here I thought you were a retired gentleman.
I can barely handle 40 hours a week any more. Done a few 7 /12s in my past.
No head bolt up yet on the Zundapp.
I've been waylaid by a pan gasket on a Volvo 940, so with the Metro that's 2 down that have to be up and running by Monday... guess I'm "lucky" that the Volvo wasn't a rear main seal.


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The Corvair powered Zundapp in Minneapolis is mine. It was built in the mid sixties by my father. I can't say how good the Zundapp gearbox is because mine uses the corvair torque converter connected to a single speed gearbox.

Here are some pictures others have taken of my bike.

http://twofastdogs.smugmug.com/Motor...55030922_7V3D2

http://westbankmc.com/photoalbums/20.../img_2206.html
I like the corvair/bike.
It looks kinda like a Burning Man bike but functional.
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