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Old 04-10-2012, 12:08 PM   #1
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Full-Synthetic 4-Stroke Adventure Motorcycle Oil

I regret having to do this but due to unresolvable issues with leaking bottles I will no longer be selling Royal Mfg. oil. In addition the increase in shipping a 25LB product is out of control so it does not make sense for me to put effort into this.

If you still have an interest in the product please visit www.RoyalMfg.com
or contact the rep (Terry) directly at 918-924-6429.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
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Customer Testimonial

"By accident, I was introduced to Monarch Motorcycle oil by Royal Mfg. At the beginning of a multi-day adventure motorcycle ride on my Honda XR650R (know to 'eat' and 'tear up' oil), I accidentally left my oil fill cap off the bike and started it. Well, oil flew everywhere....and I had no idea how much I had lost. A fellow rider (employee of Royal), happened to have some quarts of their synthetic 15w50 in his pickup. Not wanting to mix oils, by simply topping off, I drained the remaining oil I had and poured in the Monarch oil. After three, very hard days of riding, climbing high mountain passes, pushing the engine to very high temps....I didn't notice that I had burned any oil at all. Consumption was near zero. I have since put the oil in my VStrom (which has always burned oil on 75 mph interstate runs) and haven't noticed any consumption either. The bikes run really smooth and I am very happy with Monarch oil. Also, with the price at just over $6 a quart, it beats the heck out of $8, $10 and $12 oils. It will be poured in all my bikes from this point forward."

John Lane - Rocky Mountain Adventure Riders, President



Thank you for the feedback John. Appreciate the testimonial and the business. I challenge others to review the spec sheets and compare flash points etc. against the other top makes. You will find that it performs just as well if not better.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:14 PM   #3
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Sounds promising! A Note: The MSDS links for the 20/50 semi synth and the 15w50 Super Syn are disabled. I really would like to thoroughly read this before buying.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:31 PM   #4
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I encourage everyone to give this oil a try. You will not be sorry. This oil is a very high grade synthetic and their 15w50 will easily cross over to bikes asking for 10w40 (like my VStrom).

Couple of reasons to use Monarch 15w50 Motorcycle.....

1. The purchase directly benefits two men, that are in the business and fellow ADV'ers.
2. A percentage of the profits are being contributed to COHVCO.
3. It will stand side-by-side with Royal Purple, except it doesn't cost $14 a quart.
4. Most of us are not Tribologists, but the 'oil analysis' is most interesting to view. Flash points, very high TBN values and the ability of this oil to avoid shear, staying in grade is phenomenal!!!!




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"By accident, I was introduced to Monarch Motorcycle oil by Royal Mfg. At the beginning of a multi-day adventure motorcycle ride on my Honda XR650R (know to 'eat' and 'tear up' oil), I accidentally left my oil fill cap off the bike and started it. Well, oil flew everywhere....and I had no idea how much I had lost. A fellow rider (employee of Royal), happened to have some quarts of their synthetic 15w50 in his pickup. Not wanting to mix oils, by simply topping off, I drained the remaining oil I had and poured in the Monarch oil. After three, very hard days of riding, climbing high mountain passes, pushing the engine to very high temps....I didn't notice that I had burned any oil at all. Consumption was near zero. I have since put the oil in my VStrom (which has always burned oil on 75 mph interstate runs) and haven't noticed any consumption either. The bikes run really smooth and I am very happy with Monarch oil. Also, with the price at just over $6 a quart, it beats the heck out of $8, $10 and $12 oils. It will be poured in all my bikes from this point forward."

John Lane - Rocky Mountain Adventure Riders, President



Thank you for the feedback John. Appreciate the testimonial and the business. I challenge others to review the spec sheets and compare flash points etc. against the other top makes. You will find that it performs just as well if not better.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Sounds promising! A Note: The MSDS links for the 20/50 semi synth and the 15w50 Super Syn are disabled. I really would like to thoroughly read this before buying.
Thank you for the interest East Coast Rider.

The MSDS is the Material Safety Data Sheet and is typically for people concerned with storage, hazard spec's, first aid, fire fighting requirements etc. If you would like to see it I can get the factory to provide no problem, just let me know.

The oil performance data is on the PDS which is the Product Data Sheet
http://www.royalmfg.com/pds/MonarchM...n15W50_pds.pdf


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Old 06-11-2012, 01:38 PM   #6
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Thanks, Aimhi!


My main reason for asking about the MSDS is purely from an oil formulation standpoint. The bulk of manufacturers play fast and loose with the phrase "full synthetic" yet their oils are for the most part, Hydro-cracked conventional oils (termed "severely refined" on the MSDS) , and have some synthetic additive package. I'm not accusing Monarch of any trickery, I just thought it odd that they didn't have a valid link to a PDF of the MSDS on the site, that's all. I'd be curious about the oil's TBN, as well....I geuss mostly because I'm a bit of a nerd

Are the Monarch oils true PAO synthetics? Given the price, it would be a great bargain if they were!! I'd love to try it in my KLR, or my 80K mile, 30 years old Suzuki GS1100EZ, for that matter.

All that said, I'd love a look see at the MSDS if possible.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:50 PM   #7
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Thanks, Aimhi!


My main reason for asking about the MSDS is purely from an oil formulation standpoint. The bulk of manufacturers play fast and loose with the phrase "full synthetic", yet their oils are for the most part, Hydro-cracked (termed "severely refined" on the MSDS) conventional oils, and have some synthetic additive package. I'd be curious about the oil's TBN, as well. I geuss mostly because I'm a bit of a nerd

Are the Monarch oils true PAO synthetics? Given the price, it would be a great bargain if they were!! I'd love to try it in my KLR, or my 80K mile, 30 years old Suzuki GS1100EZ, for that matter.

Sure thing I have already requested the MSDS and the TBN's from their lab which is Riverside Laboratories http://www.royalmfg.com/riversidelab.html

Here is the top section of the Product Data Sheet and YES this is a bargain. You can buy the rebranded stuff for double if you want

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Old 06-11-2012, 02:39 PM   #8
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Thanks, Aimhi!


My main reason for asking about the MSDS is purely from an oil formulation standpoint. The bulk of manufacturers play fast and loose with the phrase "full synthetic" yet their oils are for the most part, Hydro-cracked conventional oils (termed "severely refined" on the MSDS) , and have some synthetic additive package. I'm not accusing Monarch of any trickery, I just thought it odd that they didn't have a valid link to a PDF of the MSDS on the site, that's all. I'd be curious about the oil's TBN, as well....I geuss mostly because I'm a bit of a nerd

Are the Monarch oils true PAO synthetics? Given the price, it would be a great bargain if they were!! I'd love to try it in my KLR, or my 80K mile, 30 years old Suzuki GS1100EZ, for that matter.

All that said, I'd love a look see at the MSDS if possible.
I get where your question comes from, the fact that most oil manufacturers now sell "hydrocracked" Group III regular oils as synthetic and still charge the same price as before they removed the PAO base!!!!! Starts with an M, C, P, V, Q ...... just about all of them except the SUPER expensive brands R, R, A. Not that it is bad for your engine since they still meet the requirements for your engine and wear due to robust additive packs.

I'll let the lab answer it since I am no oil engineer or "Tribologist" as John would say
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:01 AM   #9
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Zinc PPM & PAO base oil

Hi - These are all great questions!

I have word back on the Zinc PPM from Royal Mfg and it 1371ppm which is high - which is good. I am still waiting for the MSDS but as you can see on the label it clearly states PAO (polyalpha-olephin) true synthetic base oil being used.


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Terry Davis wrote:
The Zinc content of our Monarch Super Syn 15/50 motorcycle oil is around 1371ppm based on average blend results. Hope this will help in answering your question.
Please let me know if you need anything else. We look forward to helping!
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Senior Account Manager
Royal Mfg. Co., L.P.








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Old 06-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #10
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How does your oil compair to other top end oils? Like Mobil 1 full synth or motorx? I am an oil noob when it comes to high end oils for bikes. My bike requires 10/50 motorx full synth. That's what the mfg suggests. Thanks
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How does your oil compair to other top end oils? Like Mobil 1 full synth or motorx? I am an oil noob when it comes to high end oils for bikes. My bike requires 10/50 motorx full synth. That's what the mfg suggests. Thanks

Hi MIghty- The Monarch Royal Super Syn Full Synthetic 15/50 compares great agains other synthetic oils if you look at the product data sheets. I am not going to downgrade the value of any other specific products since it is not fair, unless we engage them on this forum - which I am not going to do.

Some of the other ADV'rs have requested some information on the Zinc PPM which is high (think - cam wear) including the fact that they us a POA base unlike many other oil companies. Feel free to check out info at these sites to learn more:

I will also have our oil expert Scrambler Davis chime in on this ok.

http://www.nobraineroil.com/G-2156.pdf

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...and-Synthetics
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
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PAO base oil is clear indicator that it is indeed a true synth formulation. Thanks, aimhi!!! And yeah, 1371 PPM for Zinc is high!! this is looking better and better
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:15 PM   #13
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can you post a voa or uoa?

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:32 PM   #14
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15W-50 the only available grade? My OldWing would kinda choke on that.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:08 PM   #15
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I dont have a test. Big John is going to have one done. Ill check with Royal to see if they have one handy but you want to see one from someone independent right?

If you want to run one I can ship you a couple quarts on my dime NP if you publish the results here.
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