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Old 04-11-2011, 01:20 PM   #16
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The engine is the same but it's been retuned/detuned, it's got about 2hp
less then the Downtown, and the aerodynamics should be a bit worse then
the Downtown.

I've seen Downtown do everything from 85 to 100mph indicated (not GPS),
so the People GTi should come close to that, but to tell the truth, other then
the probability that the GTi is a bit better in lanesplitting the Downtown seems
like a better choice for any other situation and the DT would be my choice
(and maybe will be, if I can't find a good deal on a XC500).

And GTi vs SH300? A no-brainer for me, Kymco all the way.
I'm a scooter newbie, and the only scoots I've really ridden are my Fly 150 with the 12" wheels and my Scarabeo 150 with 16" wheels. So maybe I'm "all wet" on in my thinking; but the Aprilia with the larger wheels handles like a good motorcycle and when going over imperfections in the road is far superior! The little fly also seems to want to turn in too easily (oversteer?) when making sharp turns. For those reasons, I am only considering a large wheel scooter. Can't legally lanesplit in AZ, so that's not a factor.

A detuned DT wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, especially if it can still do in excess of 80 mph.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:28 PM   #17
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I'm a scooter newbie, and the only scoots I've really ridden are my Fly 150 with the 12" wheels and my Scarabeo 150 with 16" wheels. So maybe I'm "all wet" on in my thinking; but the Aprilia with the larger wheels handles like a good motorcycle and when going over imperfections in the road is far superior! The little fly also seems to want to turn in too easily (oversteer?) when making sharp turns. For those reasons, I am only considering a large wheel scooter. Can't legally lanesplit in AZ, so that's not a factor.

A detuned DT wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, especially if it can still do in excess of 80 mph.
I would say that the difference between the Aprilia and Fly you mentioned is
about 30-35% due to wheel size difference. I've tried scooters with same
wheel sizes that ride completely different.

I've got a 12" wheeled Kymco Agility 125 now, had a Peugeot Speedfight 50
with same wheel sizes (and tire sizes) - night and day difference. Different
wheelbase and suspension makes for a completely different ride.

Bare in mind that I also got a Kawasaki with 'normal' 17" wheels and am
used to that too, and I don't see the 12" wheels on my Agility as a bad
thing. I'd like to have a 13" front perhaps, but the rear 12" is fine.

I've ridden a 16"/14" wheeled Peugeot Geopolis and 14"/14" wheeled
Satelis (both over 200kg, heavy scoots) and both handled like a normal
motorcycle, maybe even better in some respects then my kawasaki.

Don't choose your scoot by wheel size only!
Some of the best handling scoots I've ridden had 13" wheels!
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:42 PM   #18
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An after market windscreen would be a must. I've seen ones made for the sh300, I hope someone will make one for the KYMCO also. For winter commuting, a windshield is a must in my book.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:00 PM   #19
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An after market windscreen would be a must. I've seen ones made for the sh300, I hope someone will make one for the KYMCO also. For winter commuting, a windshield is a must in my book.
That's another one of the reasons I like the downtown, it already has a very nice, large screen.

As someone else said, lane splitting is not an issue for me and for that reason I would rather have the Downtown, in fact I have one on order right now.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:43 AM   #20
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Finally! A scoot with a bit of grunt that doesn't weigh 1/2 ton.

Do they come in silver with red racing stripes?
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:14 AM   #21
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Do they come in silver with red racing stripes?
well silver, yeah. bet a stripe or two could be added

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Old 04-12-2011, 07:53 AM   #22
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Wow, I like it a lot! Nice design. Looks smaller and much more sportier than a maxi scooter, almost like a 250 scooter, yet has that powerful 300 cc engine to back it up!

I seen no reason it would have any less HP than the Downtown, it looks like it has more! I would think it would hit at least an actual 80 MPH by GPS, if not more and a nice cruise speed of 65 MPH.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:08 AM   #23
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:21 AM   #24
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What's the difference in the seating style between the GTi 300 and the Downtown 300? Is it safe to assume that GTi is more of an upright position similar to a Vespa and the Downtown is more like a Burgman?

I'm asking because I haven't figured out what differentiates the two models- certainly understand that the GTi has a flat floorboard and the Downtown has a big windshield. Is there a particular audience each is designed to appeal to?

I like the styling of both!
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:58 AM   #25
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An after market windscreen would be a must. I've seen ones made for the sh300, I hope someone will make one for the KYMCO also. For winter commuting, a windshield is a must in my book.
That won't help with the wind on your legs/knees which is IMHO a bigger problem then the wind on your chest/head. I've had a ride on a new Piaggio Beverly (BV) 300 few days ago and the wind blast on the knees was unbearable.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:00 AM   #26
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What's the difference in the seating style between the GTi 300 and the Downtown 300? Is it safe to assume that GTi is more of an upright position similar to a Vespa and the Downtown is more like a Burgman?
You nailed it.
It's exactly like that.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:14 AM   #27
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That won't help with the wind on your legs/knees which is IMHO a bigger problem then the wind on your chest/head. I've had a ride on a new Piaggio Beverly (BV) 300 few days ago and the wind blast on the knees was unbearable.
I have never tried out a big wheel scoot but I would assume your legs are protected by the lower fairing, it has to be better than a motorcycle?
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:32 PM   #28
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I don't like the way the center console bulges into the floorboard section, it looks like it takes up a lot of space for the toes, like my feet would be hanging off the edge at the front, or be at a weird angle.

Otherwise, I think it is a very nice looking scoot. Whoever Kymco hired to design their new bikes should be given a bonus, they are putting out some sweet rides.
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:45 PM   #29
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Yeah, if I was in the market for a bigger scooter, the GTi 300 would be the one.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:50 AM   #30
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>>Piaggio Beverly (BV) 300 few days ago and the wind blast on the knees was unbearable.

I hope you are not saying the Kymco is the same. Because, I don't know what they were thinking with that beverly design, industrial sabotage? It's a shame because it is a good looking machine, but no lady is going to ride that with a skirt on!
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