What happened to "Plain" Standard motorcycles? - Page 3

Butters · 04-27-2011, 05:21 PM

Here you go. You can buy one today at your local Suzuki dealership:

I too have a K75. But unlike you, I love the looks of the current generation of naked standards - Bandits, Bonnevilles, Street Triple, I'd take any of them. Ironically, I really never cared for the looks of the old CBs.

But if it's (relatively) naked and has a fairly upright riding position it's a standard in my book. But the folks that like standards are probably outnumbered 100:1 by the cruiser and crotch rocket fans.

Edit: How about this for a modern standard?

perterra · 04-27-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wmax351

I'm 20.

I know there are naked bikes still. They are a completely different aesthetic.

This is the tuono. I don't see this as a "Naked Bike"

And this just looks weird:

Do people see this as looking nice?

I dont, I prefer the CB 750 or one of these two.

shu · 04-27-2011, 05:37 PM

The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think.

RoyQ's bike : DR650 thread

neutral and comfortable seating position: check
normal handlebars:check
without tons of plastic: check
visible engine: check
powerful engine: well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think.

........shu

flak · 04-27-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shu

The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think.

well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think.

........shu

I'd agree you were on to something there in terms of ergos/stance/nakedness

but as you pointed out, I think the power (and delivery) would be woefully outmatched vs. most modern day standards

probably hangs fine with the modern retro bikes though

DAKEZ · 04-27-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flak

probably hangs fine with the modern retro bikes though

It hangs fine with just about anything to about 85mph. Out-shines a large standard for urban riding.

Grainbelt · 04-27-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ

Out-shines a large standard for urban riding.

I dunno, the brakes suck and tire selection is marginal. My EX650 was better in every way.

DAKEZ · 04-27-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blk-betty

How about this, much more "standard" looking than others suggested.

MY NEXT BIKE!!! I love this thing and have been waiting for Harley to build it for 10 years....

NJ-Brett · 04-27-2011, 06:29 PM

When I think standard, I think old English bikes, older sportsters, the UJM bikes, the w650, new Bonneville, the TU250.

A standard should be a bike that two people can jump on and go for a comfortable ride, with a real rear seat and pegs a normal size passenger can use for a few hours at least.

That style is still popular in other places, like Japan.
They get the cb400ss and other cool standards.

I have only ridden standards on the street since I started street riding 36 years ago.
Old Triumphs mostly, new Triumphs, Sportsters, tu250.
Old dual sports were standard bikes with a little more suspension...
I have dual sported standard street bikes, and rode standards all around the US, and never found I needed wind protection or a lot of plastic all over my bikes.

ThomasVolomitz · 04-27-2011, 06:33 PM

Old NJ Brett- gotta throw the TU250X in there! I guess it qualifies.

DAKEZ · 04-27-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Grainbelt

I dunno, the brakes suck and tire selection is marginal. My EX650 was better in every way.

Did you miss the word "large" ??? An EX650 is not what I would consider a large Standard. Even with that I find a thumper much better for urban assault.

Grainbelt · 04-27-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ

Did you miss the word "large" ??? An EX650 is not what I would consider a large Standard. Even with that I find a thumper much better for urban assault.

What is 'large' these days?

Half the market is too fucking big for me to put up with.

blk-betty · 04-27-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ

MY NEXT BIKE!!! I love this thing and have been waiting for Harley to build it for 10 years....

Yep, have been serioulsy thinking about trading my Street Glide for one.

DAKEZ · 04-27-2011, 07:11 PM

IMO large is 1000cc and up. Middle is in the 800cc range and 650's are on the lower mid-range.

DAKEZ · 04-27-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blk-betty

Yep, have been serioulsy thinking about trading my Street Glide for one.

If you want to make a trip out of it let me know. I am at Latus in Gladstone (Portland) Oregon. I could set up your new XR with higher gearing (that is what I am going to do to mine) like my friend did to his.

Grainbelt · 04-27-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ

IMO large is 1000cc and up. Middle is in the 800cc range and 650's are on the lower mid-range.

Part of me laments that manufacturers seem to be moving from 600/1000 platforms to 800/1200 platforms.

On the other hand, 800 was what I wanted in the first place...

04-27-2011, 05:21 PM	#31
Butters . . . . . . Joined: Oct 2008 Location: NoVA Oddometer: 2,069	Here you go. You can buy one today at your local Suzuki dealership: I too have a K75. But unlike you, I love the looks of the current generation of naked standards - Bandits, Bonnevilles, Street Triple, I'd take any of them. Ironically, I really never cared for the looks of the old CBs. But if it's (relatively) naked and has a fairly upright riding position it's a standard in my book. But the folks that like standards are probably outnumbered 100:1 by the cruiser and crotch rocket fans. Edit: How about this for a modern standard? __________________ Marc 07 XChallenge 99 VFR

04-27-2011, 05:37 PM	#33
shu ... Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Colorado Oddometer: 757	The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think. RoyQ's bike : DR650 thread neutral and comfortable seating position: check normal handlebars:check without tons of plastic: check visible engine: check powerful engine: well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think. ........shu shu screwed with this post 04-27-2011 at 05:47 PM

04-27-2011, 06:33 PM	#39
ThomasVolomitz Not so Gnarly Joined: Aug 2010 Location: DDR c/o Honecker Oddometer: 3,976	Old NJ Brett- gotta throw the TU250X in there! I guess it qualifies. __________________ Doo Done

04-27-2011, 07:11 PM	#43
DAKEZ Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2007 Location: U-gene, OR. Oddometer: 17,983	IMO large is 1000cc and up. Middle is in the 800cc range and 650's are on the lower mid-range. __________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." — Dr. Seuss “Watch out for everything bigger than you, they have the "right of weight" Bib

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04-27-2011, 06:29 PM	#38
NJ-Brett Brett Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Southern New Jersey Oddometer: 4,707	When I think standard, I think old English bikes, older sportsters, the UJM bikes, the w650, new Bonneville, the TU250. A standard should be a bike that two people can jump on and go for a comfortable ride, with a real rear seat and pegs a normal size passenger can use for a few hours at least. That style is still popular in other places, like Japan. They get the cb400ss and other cool standards. I have only ridden standards on the street since I started street riding 36 years ago. Old Triumphs mostly, new Triumphs, Sportsters, tu250. Old dual sports were standard bikes with a little more suspension... I have dual sported standard street bikes, and rode standards all around the US, and never found I needed wind protection or a lot of plastic all over my bikes.