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Old 12-22-2014, 07:27 AM   #1
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Best $2-4k street legal dirt ready adventure thumper- Go!

My brother and I are going to be buying dual-sports this spring for some mini-adventures in the mountains of Virginia. Mini as in 1 day round trips. We both already have a fast street bike and Harley so to round out our third bikes we need some knobbies.

Being in the DC area, there's at least an hour or two of highway/2lane roads just to get to the national forests.

I want a budget bike but I don't want crap performance. My last enduro was a KTM 300 and my bro had a KTM 200, both 2 strokes. He's also owned a WR250X and was unhappy with the power, but I'm reminding him that now it won't be his only bike, so maybe low power will be okay.

On the table: WR250R, CRF250L, older KTM 400/450 with tags, KLX250S, DRZ350se, etc.

For sure we want electric start- I had the first WR400 and that was a nightmare to start.

Thoughts please.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:40 AM   #2
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:49 AM   #3
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Drz400
I forgot about the good 'ol DRZ400. How bad is it on the highway at 70mph with only 5th gear?

There's also the Husky TE's too, but hard to find around here.

It would be cool to have a KTM to match my KTM in my garage... but I've never rode one on the road before.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:58 AM   #4
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:17 AM   #5
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KTM 640 Adv. or E.

Husky 610/630.

Any RFS engined dirt bike that has or can be plated. Don't forget Betas as well as the KTMs.

Husaberg 70*

The last 2 suggestions (plated dirt bikes) won't be as good on the road as the first 2 and have shorter service intervals (and possibly shorter service life).

The bargain of the bunch are the Huskys.
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:21 AM   #6
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KTM 640 Adv. or E.

Husky 610/630.
$2000 to $4000. Doubt it.
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:23 AM   #7
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$2000 to $4000. Doubt it.
Yeah, they're about $4500+ on the ones I'm seeing right now. It might be worth saving a little more though... I know once I buy a bike it's going to get full maintenance, "necessary mods", new tires, brakes, etc. On the other hand, I might have almost as much fun and be able to get a bike a lot sooner if it's "only" $2000. Easier on the marriage too. "Why do you need THREE motorcycles!?"
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:30 AM   #8
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Yeah, they're about $4500+ on the ones I'm seeing right now. It might be worth saving a little more though... I know once I buy a bike it's going to get full maintenance, "necessary mods", new tires, brakes, etc. On the other hand, I might have almost as fun and be able to get a bike a lot sooner if it's "only" $2000. Easier on the marriage too. "Why do you need THREE motorcycles!?"
I'm in the same predicament as you currently. Currently narrowed it down to; Wr250r, Crf250l, Dr650, or Drz400. I have a street bike. I am looking for extended distance (few hundred miles) with some comfort to get to the trails. Not interested in modding the shit out of another bike either. Power limitations on 250s maybe, but I think I just have to try them all.
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:33 AM   #9
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$3300 several years ago from a VA inmate and equally at home in the VA mountains:



and on Annapolis, Baltimore and DC expressways:




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Old 12-22-2014, 08:48 AM   #10
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You've got some interesting parameters. A woods bike and one that will green lane for several hours. And, all for under $4 grand or so.

If power is not a concern then you can look at the 250's, like the WR,KLX, and CRF. But, from what you've written I do think you'd be disappointed.

None of the 650's are very nimble, especially the KTM 640s which are battleships in terms of handling and turning (not to mention those nasty vibrations).

So, to my mind it kind of limits you to a plated KTM 400,450,500,530 etc. However, those will be at the very upper limit of your budget or beyond. You might get lucky if your search is diligent.

Honestly, the DRZ400 might be your best bet. It is a compromise, but aren't they all? It has some known weaknesses and flaws, but again, don't they all. They are reliable, well made, reasonably nimble, decent power, reasonable weight, reasonable power, and tons of aftermarket to correct what needs to be changed.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:17 AM   #11
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Plated CRF450X?
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:21 AM   #12
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For $4,000 you should be able to get two of them.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:26 AM   #13
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For $4,000 you should be able to get two of them.
How's the 350 compare to the 400? Is the 350 air cooled? Will it do 70mph?
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:35 AM   #14
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How's the 350 compare to the 400? Is the 350 air cooled? Will it do 70mph?
350 is air/oil cooled, with fins on the head and oil circulating through the frame. 70 is no problem, but it's winding pretty good and I wouldn't want to run it on the freeway for an hour at that speed. Mine, with me weighing a bit over 200 lbs with gear, is most comfortable cruising at 55-60 for distances on the slab.
The DRZ400 is pretty much the replacement for the 350, but almost 3x the cost.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:40 AM   #15
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DR-Z 400. Will do most things you require reasonably well (including fitting the budget). If you really like the dirt side of motorcycling and will stick with it, maybe then sell that Harley and buy a new KTM 500 EXC.
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