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Old 08-22-2012, 02:58 PM   #2191
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"I am temped to ride Eastern Enduros with this thing... "

Vico1, I am decidedly not tempted to ride any tight, muddy races with my 500. I'd take my '12 300 XC-W any day. It is far more enjoyable in tight woods, far quicker for faster lap times, light enough that I can pick it up and walk with it, a feathery feeling suspension that makes me think I am 17 again (not...I'm 55 years past that age), has a simple motor with a great center of gravity unlike any 4T and is stone reliable. For this kind of riding the 300 is the giggles.

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Well who wouldn't! And I totally agree with the 300 for single track...Im only 48 years past 17 but I still like to get a little jiggy in the single track... butr mostly I do faster jeep trails and forrest roads... 4th 5th an even 6th at times...

More dangerous but less physical than eastern ST...
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #2192
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Well who wouldn't! And I totally agree with the 300 for single track...Im only 48 years past 17 but I still like to get a little jiggy in the single track... butr mostly I do faster jeep trails and forrest roads... 4th 5th an even 6th at times...

More dangerous but less physical than eastern ST...
Heck, I had it out on the MX track this past weekend. Granted, I was wore out afterwards.....enjoyed my son's CRF250 more. But the 500 is just so damn good. I've single tracked it, dual sported it, MX'd it, ridden in plenty of mud, on rocks, some sand. I've owned a ton of bikes, including a 525 and a 530, Husky 610, and others. This is BY FAR the best bike I've owned.


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Old 08-22-2012, 03:32 PM   #2193
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My riding partner, Tha Rick, is a crafty bastard and while filming him he saw the opportunity to spray me with mud. You can see him look back to make sure I am there then give it the nuts. He places two perfectly sized mud balls right onto my goggles on each eye.

Be very very careful if you ever ride behind this man

Enjoy. Two 2012 KTM 500 XC-W in action.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:47 PM   #2194
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''Heck, I had it out on the MX track this past weekend. Granted, I was wore out afterwards.....enjoyed my son's CRF250 more. But the 500 is just so damn good. I've single tracked it, dual sported it, MX'd it, ridden in plenty of mud, on rocks, some sand. I've owned a ton of bikes, including a 525 and a 530, Husky 610, and others. This is BY FAR the best bike I've owned."

1+ Except for tight single track in which I would place the 300 XC-W at the top of my list. It is at the bottom of my list for DS riding. So the 500 wins the overall contest.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:54 PM   #2195
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My riding partner, Tha Rick, is a crafty bastard and while filming him he saw the opportunity to spray me with mud. You can see him look back to make sure I am there then give it the nuts. He places two perfectly sized mud balls right onto my goggles on each eye.

Be very very careful if you ever ride behind this man

Enjoy. Two 2012 KTM 500 XC-W in action.

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At the end of the vid I see you have the HDB handguard/top clamp setup with powerlet on your 500 XC-W

Did you make it street legal with horn etc ?

What additional switching, if any, did you add ?

I've seen Geeks detailed how to but also interested to see other HDB setups for the XC-W
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:59 PM   #2196
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toddler...........great video and a great looking riding trail.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #2197
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Valve adjustment video

I got a rough cut of a valve adjustment video done. Now I just need to massage the video and get it posted up......
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:33 PM   #2198
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I got a rough cut of a valve adjustment video done. Now I just need to massage the video and get it posted up......
Great,good work.

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Old 08-23-2012, 06:19 AM   #2199
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At the end of the vid I see you have the HDB handguard/top clamp setup with powerlet on your 500 XC-W

Did you make it street legal with horn etc ?

What additional switching, if any, did you add ?

I've seen Geeks detailed how to but also interested to see other HDB setups for the XC-W
This thread should help you in what I've done.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740375
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:27 AM   #2200
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I got a rough cut of a valve adjustment video done. Now I just need to massage the video and get it posted up......
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Great,good work.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:10 AM   #2201
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Mudguts, Vico1, Abyss, and Stu thanks heaps for the res pones to my question, very much appreciate your insight. It's through forums like this that we perspective buyers get insight into new products and models.

Mudguts - Yea I was not impressed with the 690R for me as a rider. Sadly there are no 500's in the country for me to have a test spin on. No dealers and no bikes in country. Damn. As riding really is the only sure fire way to tell.

Can you boys give me a sense of the 500 motor and how it compared to the 525? Stu I know you had a 565 and I'm on a 570 so real curious is you could compare and contrast the 500 motor to your built 525 aside from the flameout issue, pro's and cons. Also does the 500 steer as light as the 300 you had? I know its heavier through the turns but does it react to steering inputs as quickly as the 300 or just better than the 525? Trying to get a better feel on how much lighter feeling the 500 is over the 525. I really enjoy riding my 2011 250 XCF due to how flick-able it is compared to the 525. However if the 500 is only 10-15% easier to flick about than maybe I'll keep the 525 and explore turning my 250 into a multi day explorer. However if it is dramatically different then it warrants my consideration.

Stu you are correct since i have rebuilt the complete top and bottom ends on my 570 i could most likely get another couple years of great times exploring about. It's sad how these new bikes tempt us to that shiny apple.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:35 AM   #2202
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Mudguts, Vico1, Abyss, and Stu thanks heaps for the res pones to my question, very much appreciate your insight. It's through forums like this that we perspective buyers get insight into new products and models.

Mudguts - Yea I was not impressed with the 690R for me as a rider. Sadly there are no 500's in the country for me to have a test spin on. No dealers and no bikes in country. Damn. As riding really is the only sure fire way to tell.

Can you boys give me a sense of the 500 motor and how it compared to the 525? Stu I know you had a 565 and I'm on a 570 so real curious is you could compare and contrast the 500 motor to your built 525 aside from the flameout issue, pro's and cons. Also does the 500 steer as light as the 300 you had? I know its heavier through the turns but does it react to steering inputs as quickly as the 300 or just better than the 525? Trying to get a better feel on how much lighter feeling the 500 is over the 525. I really enjoy riding my 2011 250 XCF due to how flick-able it is compared to the 525. However if the 500 is only 10-15% easier to flick about than maybe I'll keep the 525 and explore turning my 250 into a multi day explorer. However if it is dramatically different then it warrants my consideration.

Stu you are correct since i have rebuilt the complete top and bottom ends on my 570 i could most likely get another couple years of great times exploring about. It's sad how these new bikes tempt us to that shiny apple.
I did not have an opportunity to try the new 500 out. I knew that the difference between my '09 300 XC-W and my '12 300 XC-W were simply light years apart in handling and feel. My friend's '11 300 XC felt so much lighter (same weight), turned so much better and tracked so much more accurately that I bought the '12 XC-W without riding it. Fabulous bike! I assumed the new '13 500 would probably be similarly better than my '07 565 and, wow, it does not disappoint at all! It is a little lighter than the 565 but it feels like it is in between the 300 and the 565 for weight (until I dump it and have to pick it up). I have not tried it on anything like your tight, muddy jungle trails so I cannot comment on that.

Once I get the motor sorted out ("jetting" basically) I think this thing would pull right along with the 565 partly because it gets better traction than the 565. It hooks and flies. I put in a 1.4 lb. Shorai battery (about 3.5 lbs saving of weight up high) and the Akrapovic muffler (another 2 lbs up high) and put on the Sicass sub fender / rear flush turn signals and front hand guard turn signals for another 3 lbs. of high up weight. That helped as well. With the Euro map and the Sicass map switch set to "Mild" this is the best street motorcycle I have ever had. Very smooth everywhere with zero glitches. With the map on "Wild" you can be a street badass.

If you try to turn your 250 into a multi day ride you will hate yourself. I don't think it even has a counter balancer. I would take the 300 over the 250 for that sort of ride any time. Lighter and better power.

I just now ordered the JD Jetting 6X Tuner. I should have it on and test it next week. I will let you know how that goes.

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Old 08-23-2012, 08:51 AM   #2203
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FTB,

I would add that living with the new 500 is much, much easier than with the 565. Oil changes are much easier with the relocated drain and filter locations. There is now only one cartridge filter. It now holds 1.5 liters of oil so you really do not need a cooler. Valve checks are probably a 20 minute job from the look of it, once you get the smog crap out of the way.

My bike came without the two bolts for the SAS system. The drain plug and washer work for the exhaust side. Just Dremel off the magnet. The other one I found in my junk box. When you pull the spigot out of the intake just make certain that the bolt you put in is no longer than the spigot's threaded length since you don't want to push aluminum from the hole into the intake tract, if there is any there. A copper washer left over from one of your 570's valve cover bolts completes this. I also put teflon tape on the threads of this screw since I do not want leaks on the intake side.

If you have a cushioned hub just keep it and slide it on the 500. Used ones seem to go within minutes of being posted.

How will KTM top this? They probably will. Can't wait to see what they do.

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Old 08-23-2012, 08:57 AM   #2204
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Acerbis 5.3 2013 compatibility

Any one out there know if the 5.3 gal Acerbis tank for the 2012 500 will fit the 2013? I bought one and am going to put it on mine during the "desmogging" procedure this week. I remember a ways back in this thread one of the contributors seemed to have a contact at Acerbis. Hope it fits. I was unable to find any references to Acerbis tanks for the 2013's.

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Old 08-23-2012, 09:46 AM   #2205
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I got a rough cut of a valve adjustment video done. Now I just need to massage the video and get it posted up......
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