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Old 05-05-2011, 08:17 AM   #16
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I believe Austin Mini wheels are 10" and the rear wheel of the Reflex is 12".
Later Minis (not those BMW things) have 12" wheels.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:48 AM   #17
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Would the bigger wheels indicate a Cooper or Cooper S model? All of the (real) Minis I've raced against (SCCA) had 10" wheels.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:15 AM   #18
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Would the bigger wheels indicate a Cooper or Cooper S model? All of the (real) Minis I've raced against (SCCA) had 10" wheels.
All Minis had them from some time in the 1990s (?? - experts please step in now!) to the end of production. I think it was only sold in the US until the late 60s, so all the ones you have over there will be on 10" wheels. This is a 1996 model:

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Old 05-06-2011, 09:23 AM   #19
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:43 AM   #20
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:08 PM   #21
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stock on a helix is 120/80/10. Classic min copper is 145 x 80 x 10. Makes me wonder if it would fit. Tires are at any place that sells mini tires
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:49 AM   #22
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stock on a helix is 120/80/10. Classic min copper is 145 x 80 x 10. Makes me wonder if it would fit. Tires are at any place that sells mini tires
I've seen sidecar outfits that have been fitted with car tyres and that seems fair enough, I know from my own experience that the tyres wear square on outfits anyway. What I don't get, and I know this has probably all been said before, is why someone would want to put a square-section car tyre on a scooter that's designed to lean over. Surely it'll affect the handling?

Are car tyres even safe to use in this way? I'm thinking about the strength of the side walls under even the angles of lean generated by an old bus like the Helix.
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:11 AM   #23
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I've seen sidecar outfits that have been fitted with car tyres and that seems fair enough, I know from my own experience that the tyres wear square on outfits anyway. What I don't get, and I know this has probably all been said before, is why someone would want to put a square-section car tyre on a scooter that's designed to lean over. Surely it'll affect the handling?

Are car tyres even safe to use in this way? I'm thinking about the strength of the side walls under even the angles of lean generated by an old bus like the Helix.
Yeah, I've thought the same thing. I wouldn't do it but that's just me...
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:12 AM   #24
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A new scooter tire costs me $100 mounted... my life is worth much more than that.
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:56 AM   #25
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A new scooter tire costs me $100 mounted... my life is worth much more than that.
Agreed and I follow the logic. The thing is a shitload of people are doing this now and surviving and the reality is if you look in the piles of tires behind the shops most tires are worn out right down the middle--the sides are barely used.

Yeah, lots of people do dangerous drugs and survive, too but this is a whole 'nuther thing. It certainly has my interest and if anyone hears of someone getting killed or maimed specifically as a result of using car tires please let us know.

In the meanwhile you "darksiders" keep the feedback coming and ride safe...
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:14 PM   #26
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I've never ridden a bike with a car tire in place of a bonafide bike tire... what I can say is this; on my old Honda Elite 150, the tire it had when I got it was a very good quality michelin tire with a nice rounded profile; the bike handled like a dream, and hugged the road even through the tightest corners. After picking up a nail, I replace the tire with a less expensive tire with a much "squarer" profile; the bike never handled right since, and I nearly crashed the damn thing in a corner (it would only lean so far before becoming unstable).
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Agreed and I follow the logic. The thing is a shitload of people are doing this now and surviving and the reality is if you look in the piles of tires behind the shops most tires are worn out right down the middle--the sides are barely used.

Yeah, lots of people do dangerous drugs and survive, too but this is a whole 'nuther thing. It certainly has my interest and if anyone hears of someone getting killed or maimed specifically as a result of using car tires please let us know.

In the meanwhile you "darksiders" keep the feedback coming and ride safe...
You sound like you have an agenda, or should I call it a crusade. What feed back, all I see is shouldn't, couldn't , wouldn't, what is it.
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Old 05-08-2011, 11:31 AM   #28
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:27 AM   #29
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My Piaggio MP3 with mini-cooper 140/70-12 tire on it.



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I have 4500 miles on the tire now and have had no issues at all. I do need to run tire pressure 1 psi below max as any less gave too much squirm on the freeway. I've ridden this tire in the rain with no problems. It took about 200 miles before I adjusted to the different feel of the tire and now I can't even remember what the differences were.

Why go darkside? well the MP3 is a heavy scoot and with the small 12" tire I was getting around 2200-2500 miles per tire. I commute almost 200 miles/week so having to change tires every 3 months was a drag.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:50 AM   #30
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My Piaggio MP3 with mini-cooper 140/70-12 tire on it.



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I have 4500 miles on the tire now and have had no issues at all. I do need to run tire pressure 1 psi below max as any less gave too much squirm on the freeway. I've ridden this tire in the rain with no problems. It took about 200 miles before I adjusted to the different feel of the tire and now I can't even remember what the differences were.

Why go darkside? well the MP3 is a heavy scoot and with the small 12" tire I was getting around 2200-2500 miles per tire. I commute almost 200 miles/week so having to change tires every 3 months was a drag.
Did you use a tube in the tire or put a tubless tire core and go tubless?
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