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Old 05-15-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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Puke High Side on a KLR

This Friday, while out on the Blue Ridge Parkway and other mountain roads, I high-sided. I got off the BRP onto Hwy 215, Near Brevard, NC.
215 is a very twistie stretch with fresh black top, tight turns, little traffic, and thankfully, wide shoulders in parts.While slowing down to enter a left hander, my rear tire locked up just before I started to lean into the turn. The rear slid right just a bit, then caught traction, and sent me flying! The bike slid on the right side, as did I, up the raod and onto the shoulder of the road. The bike stopped there, and I didn't. While sliding on my right side (mostly on my elbow) when I hit the dirt I went flying again. Other than rolling a few times times that is about all I remember until I was looking up at the sky through the dust. While laying there for a moment, all I could think of was what bones were broken.
Thankfully other then being sore from head to toe, no injuries. Wearing ATGATT is a must. I was going about 50 the last I looked at the spedo, and hit the ground hard. I wear Olympia pants, and their AST jacket, and Alpine Stars boots, and HJC helmet, and good gloves. This could have been nasty.
As for the bike (09 KLR) The Happy-Trails nerf bars did a pretty good job of taking most of the damage. The hand guard, and fairings are scratched up a bit, and I don't know where the hell my mirror went, but all else is fine. Last night I pounded out some of the bends in the cross support braces on the nerf bars, and other than finding a mirror nothing else needs to be done. Well maybe one more thing, tires. The Dunlop 666's can be a bit unpridictable to say the least, and the same can be said for the brakes on the KLR. I'll probably go back to TKC's.
All in all, things are fine, and I'm gonna try to learn from this accident.
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:25 AM   #2
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Sounds like a nasty one! Good to hear you and the bike are only a little worse for wear. I wonder how this would've turned out if you were wearing flip-flops and a ball cap?
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:29 AM   #3
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...While slowing down to enter a left hander, my rear tire locked up just before I started to lean into the turn....
The tire locked up due to a mechanical failure?

Or did you lock it up?
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:43 AM   #4
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Damn, Glad it didn't end too badly! Was it a case of locking the rear then easing-off *slightly*? Just enough for the rear to catch?
I remember getting a good kick doing just that, avoiding a dog in El Salvador.

My dirt instinct tells me that easing-off the brake after locking it up is correct - But I've heard that's a recipe for a highside on pavement. Too much sudden grip in the wrong direction I think? I think you're supposed to ride it out locked?

I prefer the TKC80s too, damn near perfect tire for the KLR in my opinion.

Would love to see some snaps of the bike and your gear!
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:48 AM   #5
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The tire locked up due to a mechanical failure?

Or did you lock it up?
I locked it up. The Dunlops are not quite as sticky as the TKC's that I'm used to, and KLR's are known to be a bit lacking when it comes to brake power. But ultimately the blame goes to me.
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:52 AM   #6
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Was it a case of locking the rear then easing-off *slightly*? Just enough for the rear to catch?

My dirt instinct tells me that easing-off the brake after locking it up is correct - But I've heard that's a recipe for a highside on pavement. Too much sudden grip in the wrong direction I think? I think you're supposed to ride it out locked?

I prefer the TKC80s too, damn near perfect tire for the KLR in my opinion.






That is exactly what happened! Maybe next time I'll stay on the brake and take a low side.
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Locked on pavement until stopped -or nearly so, or a high side is a likely outcome. Different animal on dirt.

I have worn out several sets of TKC's, and loved them but not the cost. Shinkos and Kendas are more within my means now.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:12 AM   #8
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Don't know the specifics of your situation, but in WV I have seen more than a few riders who are used to taking turns at certain speeds in their (flatter) home ranges get into down-slope turns too hot, and encounter more front weight transfer and front suspension compression than they expect, leading to enough unloading of the rear tire to lock it up - even on a KLR.

A locked up rear tire is recoverable if you keep it locked until the speed is low enough for you to deal with the forces involved. No low-side if you keep the front tire rolling.

Running curvy mountain roads is a blast, but it's better to go slower-down and faster-up until you are more familiar with what 8% or better grades will do to your corner entries.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:12 AM   #9
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Glad to hear you're ok! Just rode 215 to the BRP to 276 on friday nite, through the nasty bit of the storm and hit lots of rock and wet leaves in the corners, heading to the old school rally. Man, what a nice place to crash Again, glad you're ok. But protocol on a rear brake lock up on asphalt is to keep it locked. I'll pick a low side over a high side any day of the week. The "snap" from the rear regaining traction is too much for anyone to hold on to!
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Glad to hear you're ok! Just rode 215 to the BRP to 276 on friday nite, through the nasty bit of the storm and hit lots of rock and wet leaves in the corners, heading to the old school rally. Man, what a nice place to crash Again, glad you're ok. But protocol on a rear brake lock up on asphalt is to keep it locked. I'll pick a low side over a high side any day of the week. The "snap" from the rear regaining traction is too much for anyone to hold on to!
It happened so fast, my reaction was to let off the brake and lean. Obviously that was wrong! The snap was way to much for me to hold on to!
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:29 AM   #11
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Pics or it didn't happen.

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Glad you're ok!

I'll try to load some tonight of the bike and gear. Thanks for all the well wishes!
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:39 AM   #13
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Glad you're ok!

Might that be his avatar??
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Might that be his avatar??
Naw, thats just from a slow low side on gravel
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:45 PM   #15
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I think I would have fared the same, coming too hot on a corner and locking the rear is something that you don't get to practice often, for good reasons...

Instinctively I ease off the brake when it locks and doing differently under panic seems too hard, I will try to keep it in mind but I think I'll end up flying if it comes to that...

You came through relatively unscathed, put it behind you and learn from it. Thanks for sharing it.
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