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Old 03-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #2461
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"Do they just look at the 1968 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia or do they have other methods? "

I don't know if Navteq has anything to do with Birds Eye but my house is 17 years old and BE shows a wooded lot! I pissed away 30 bucks! GH
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:24 AM   #2462
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Another Beta, fixing the previous one:

Montana software version 3.94 Beta

as of March 8, 2012
Download (6.46 MB)

View installation instructions and system requirements

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Although this software is believed to be reliable, it has not yet been released for production and should be used at your own risk.

Change History
Changes made from version 3.93 to 3.94:

Fixed issues causing crashes with 3.93 beta release
Fixed issue with geocache visits in calendar application
Problems with this beta software may be reported to MontanaBeta@garmin.com

Changes made from version 3.90 to 3.93:

Added symbol filtering to Where To? > Waypoints and Waypoint Manager
Improved GPS response at low speeds
Improved touch screen responsiveness
Improved font sizes for Arabic and Farsi languages
Fixed issues with support for Canada BlueChart g2 maps
Fixed issue with NMEA
Fixed issue with track distance data field when track logging is off
Fixed issue with track log naming when using BaseCamp
Problems with this beta software may be reported to MontanaBeta@garmin.com

http://www8.garmin.com/support/downl...ls.jsp?id=5679
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"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:35 AM   #2463
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Another Beta, fixing the previous one:

Montana software version 3.94 Beta

as of March 8, 2012
Download (6.46 MB)

View installation instructions and system requirements

Notes:

Although this software is believed to be reliable, it has not yet been released for production and should be used at your own risk.

Change History
Changes made from version 3.93 to 3.94:

Fixed issues causing crashes with 3.93 beta release
Fixed issue with geocache visits in calendar application
Problems with this beta software may be reported to MontanaBeta@garmin.com

Changes made from version 3.90 to 3.93:

Added symbol filtering to Where To? > Waypoints and Waypoint Manager
Improved GPS response at low speeds
Improved touch screen responsiveness
Improved font sizes for Arabic and Farsi languages
Fixed issues with support for Canada BlueChart g2 maps
Fixed issue with NMEA
Fixed issue with track distance data field when track logging is off
Fixed issue with track log naming when using BaseCamp
Problems with this beta software may be reported to MontanaBeta@garmin.com

http://www8.garmin.com/support/downl...ls.jsp?id=5679
Just had time to install this and it worked perfectly for me. My Montana's now at 3.94 and has rebooted normally.

YMMV
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:50 AM   #2464
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How soon can we expect 3.94 to be released "officially"?
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:58 AM   #2465
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It probably depends on how many try the beta and provide feedback.


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Old 03-09-2012, 07:59 AM   #2466
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I'm in the middle of boxing up my Montana to send in for a one-for-one replacement (caused by Beta v3.93). Think I'll give 3.94 a pass.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:26 AM   #2467
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What about if a state builds a brand new road through what was formerly a cornfield.

Does Navteq check for stuff like this or do they rely on users notifying them?
My understanding is Yes. Basically both happen. Navteq will eventually find out about it. I don't know whether they are doing the Google thing and driving around, or whether they are getting map info from Cities and States or whether it is triggered by user input. I suspect it is some of all of the above. They verify user input so it probably doesn't get changed/added until they drive the road though. That is for road changes.

Who knows about POI stuff. We used to have a small business at the house that we shut down 3 or 4 years ago. Never was a POI on Google or Garmin maps. Just discovered that is now shows on Garmin maps. The business was live for 5 years and it never showed. Shutdown with Texas almost 4 years ago and it shows up new in the latest map set. That's a slow process and explains why we are suddenly getting more calls at the house about small business stuff.
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:48 AM   #2468
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I just checked my Windows-BC and there appears to be a bug that defaults to Direct Routing when you "Create a Route from Track" no matter what your Activity setting is. But then you knew that. You might want to send Windows BaseCamp an email or post on the Garmin Forum. I don't use Win-BC any longer due to it's convoluted approach to UI and workflow.

Cheers,
Well, I did get a response from the Basecamp team after I described what i was trying to do, which was create routes from tracks using the activated profile, not DIRECT, this is their response. I also asked about the track colour being able to be modified from default Grey to whatever the user chooses in preferences.

"Thank you for your feedback.

I am afraid the feature to convert a route from a track isn't supposed to do what you are trying to do. Its purpose is to create a direct route from a track. Normally tracks are very detailed (because they usually are recordings of a trip you have taken) and it wouldn't make sense to convert them to anything but direct routes.

I admit that what you describe could be a valid use-case as well. It's just not something the software is currently made to handle. I'll add this to our list of possible future features, but it might be quite a while till it makes it to BaseCamp.

The default color for tracks (and routes) is definitely doable. I'll add a case for this as well. Again, no promises when this will make it into a release."

Well, someone found a different way to use their software, cool :)

There were some responses from others about the default track colour, along the lines of, what you haven't made a case yet, you told us it was going to happen ages ago!!

Anyway, it looks like I shall continue down the path I was following, a slow laborious task, but the end result will be enjoyable when I ride the roads :)

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Old 03-09-2012, 11:12 AM   #2469
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This thread is a great read. Thanks to you guys who own a Montana. I was and am still seriously considering buying a 600.

I also especially like the listed emails for whereto write with location errors. I am hoping the more we all write ( alot ) the better the mapping will be and the more the mapping companies will pay attention to accuracy.

Thanks again and keep it coming with all the bad and the good.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:35 PM   #2470
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Well, I did get a response from the Basecamp team after I described what i was trying to do, which was create routes from tracks using the activated profile, not DIRECT, this is their response. I also asked about the track colour being able to be modified from default Grey to whatever the user chooses in preferences.

"Thank you for your feedback.

I am afraid the feature to convert a route from a track isn't supposed to do what you are trying to do. Its purpose is to create a direct route from a track. Normally tracks are very detailed (because they usually are recordings of a trip you have taken) and it wouldn't make sense to convert them to anything but direct routes.

I admit that what you describe could be a valid use-case as well. It's just not something the software is currently made to handle. I'll add this to our list of possible future features, but it might be quite a while till it makes it to BaseCamp.

The default color for tracks (and routes) is definitely doable. I'll add a case for this as well. Again, no promises when this will make it into a release."

Well, someone found a different way to use their software, cool :)

There were some responses from others about the default track colour, along the lines of, what you haven't made a case yet, you told us it was going to happen ages ago!!

Anyway, it looks like I shall continue down the path I was following, a slow laborious task, but the end result will be enjoyable when I ride the roads :)

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TS,

The reply you received from Garmin is just what I was referring to when I was talking about the divergence between Win-BC and Mac-BC. On Mac-BC we CAN do just what you want to do. Below is the "use-case" you can share with the Win-BC team. It seems that the Win-BC team is doing anything and everything they possibly can to NOT provide a modern, usable, Planning application. I think they are afraid they might get slammed for doing something that looked marginally like MapSource. To bad.

Here I have a Track and then I did the Create Route from Track with my Routing Preferences set to Automotive mode. The resulting route is certainly not a Direct Route - it only has 5 Viapoints.






Maybe you should just buy a Mac and be done with it. . .

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Old 03-09-2012, 01:40 PM   #2471
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Ok... I've been playing with my 650 for a couple weeks, read the manual and looked a about 100 posts here.

Can anyone tell me how to program a location for the "go home" icon. I would like to get to my house with the touch of a button. I have the I on locked on the homescreen but I can't program in my address.

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Old 03-09-2012, 01:47 PM   #2472
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Ok... I've been playing with my 650 for a couple weeks, read the manual and looked a about 100 posts here.

Can anyone tell me how to program a location for the "go home" icon. I would like to get to my house with the touch of a button. I have the I on locked on the homescreen but I can't program in my address.

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The Montana doesn't have the same "Home" location as found on Nuvis and Zumos. What you need to do is create a waypoint and call it Home, then try to remember not to delete it in the future.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:49 PM   #2473
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The Montana doesn't have the same "Home" location as found on Nuvis and Zumos. What you need to do is create a waypoint and call it Home, then try to remember not to delete it in the future.
Ok. Thx. But what is the garmin "home" location? Seems strange that Alli of us would be automatically routed to the same "go home" location
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:26 PM   #2474
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Ok. Thx. But what is the garmin "home" location? Seems strange that Alli of us would be automatically routed to the same "go home" location
The Garmin Home location is set by you, often when you bring your new Nuvi/Zumo outside as you set it up on Christmas day. ;)
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:41 PM   #2475
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Ok. Thx. But what is the garmin "home" location? Seems strange that Alli of us would be automatically routed to the same "go home" location
As Emmbeedee implied, there really isn't a Go Home location. On the Montana, the Go Home function is a Shortcut. To make the Shortcut useful, you need to Edit the Go Home shortcut and add your own "home" location (Waypoint) to the Shortcut "Where To?" function. And, as Emmbeedee pointed out, you need to remember not to delete your "home" Waypoint.

It would have been a bit more convenient if the Montana had used the same approach as the nuvi-based Units and made the Go Home an Application rather than a Shortcut. I like Shortcuts but since you can't "protect" data used in a Shortcut like you can in an App, this is a rather fragile Shortcut - in that it is easy to make it non-functional by deleting your "home" waypoint.

Might be a good Feature Request for those of you that actually use it.

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